sudden valley gunner
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sudden valley gunner
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I would wake vomiting at around 2 in the morning, only problem is that without acid the vomit was very dry and would set like concrete in my throat and nose and I couldn't breath either.
Brass Magnet
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Maybe it shouldn't, but It most definitely did. I started out with the low dose of Ranitidine twice a day which worked great for a while but it kept wearing off quicker and after a month and a half or so had to go to the higher mg dose. The effectiveness of the higher dose declined as well after another month and a half or there a bouts. I think I just developed a tolerance to it. I'm hoping the Prilosec doesn't quit!
My biggest enemy, I've found, are foods containing tomatoes. I can get away with one slice of Pizza, or a couple chips with salsa but any more than that and I'll be hurting for at least six hours. I love chilli and can't touch the stuff. Tomato soup, nope; can't have that either. Lasagna? Not a chance!
Thanks, but now I'm truly sorry I asked......:uhoh:
Metalhead47
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Wait I'm confused now. I thought it was an intrusive and overbearing statist government what did that to you?
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OlGutshotWilly
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Maybe it shouldn't, but It most definitely did. I started out with the low dose of Ranitidine twice a day which worked great for a while but it kept wearing off quicker and after a month and a half or so had to go to the higher mg dose. The effectiveness of the higher dose declined as well after another month and a half or there a bouts. I think I just developed a tolerance to it. I'm hoping the Prilosec doesn't quit!
My biggest enemy, I've found, are foods containing tomatoes. I can get away with one slice of Pizza, or a couple chips with salsa but any more than that and I'll be hurting for at least six hours. I love chilli and can't touch the stuff. Tomato soup, nope; can't have that either. Lasagna? Not a chance!
Thanks, but now I'm truly sorry I asked......:uhoh:
Hey Brass,
Don't confuse ranitidine with the PPI's. Clearly your metabolism was clearing the H2 blocker ranitidine ( which is a 12 hour drug ) faster. This is where individuals vary. As well, the prescription dose of ranitidine is twice that of the OTC dose. So the Rx dose will take longer for your body to clear. Clearly your liver ( or kidneys, I haven't looked it up ) are working OT on you
The omeprazole ( prilosec ) is a proton pump inhibitor, not an H2 blocker. It is a 24 hour drug and if taken every day should keep your production of acid to a minimum and work just find for you.
Tomatoes/red wine/ spicy foods can be a killer LOL! Also, eat smaller portions so your stomach is not as full and the foods/acid are not so apt to wash back up your esophagus. Pasta's and breads can make it worse as well for me, and I love both of those foods! The usual advice from your doctor should also include sleeping on a couple of pillows or propping the head of your bed up a bit.
All this is predicated on you having chronic heartburn and not H.Pylori or an ulcer BTW.
Metalhead
Wait I'm confused now. I thought it was an intrusive and overbearing statist government what did that to you?
That is just plain funny!
Metalhead47
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Brass Magnet
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Cool! Thanks for setting me straight on the differences. That explains it.
Actually I hardly ever get heartburn, it's all in my stomach. I did talk to the doctor about this and he basically said that if I'm not getting increasing symptoms and Prilosec relieves them, it is something he'd proscribe as treatment anyway. We talked about the possibility of an ulcer and he asked me quite a few questions but basically shied from sticking a scope in my stomach unless I can't get relief or symptoms worsen. Evidently, my type of ailment is not uncommon amongst those that have had a cholecystectomy.
since9
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Alcohol is only mildly addictive, and only when drunk in large quantities on a regular basis. Much of it involves physical dependence, which makes quitting drinking a unpleasant process. Many legal and illegal drugs are far more addictive.
sudden valley gunner
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Wait I'm confused now. I thought it was an intrusive and overbearing statist government what did that to you?
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Funny! I needed the laugh.
You might have a point since stress does add to the symptoms, and an overbearing statist government definitely ads stress.
Metalhead47
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... and caffeine, nicotine, over the counter sleep aids, Affrin nose spray, etc etc...
ANYTHING can become an addiction. Look at all the people seeking treatment for addictions to sex, gambling, "My Strange Addiction" on TV...
It is not the role of the State in a free society to dictate what substances (or activities) people may or may not engage in because some may be more addictive than others. And it is the height of hypocrisy to say "this addictive and damaging substance is OK, but this other one is not. Because WE said so."
Brass Magnet
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+1
Are we really getting into this again? I'll take the pro-rights/prohibition-doesn't-work-anyway side as per usual...
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Morbidph8
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Did you know you can die from Alcohol detox? It because of the action of alcohol on the brain. It can cause seizures. Heroin on the other hand will suck to detox, but will not kill you. I would say Alcohol is way worse in terms of addiction then heroin.
This came out about a year ago in the UK. The study finds Alcohol is way more harmful overall then even heroin/crack.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/nov/01/alcohol-more-harmful-than-heroin-crack
Now I'm not saying to prohibit alcohol. Didn't work the first time. When it comes to the "War on Drugs" it's not working this time either.
This came out about a year ago in the UK. The study finds Alcohol is way more harmful overall then even heroin/crack.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/nov/01/alcohol-more-harmful-than-heroin-crack
Now I'm not saying to prohibit alcohol. Didn't work the first time. When it comes to the "War on Drugs" it's not working this time either.
Metalhead47
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80-odd years ago when it obviously wasn't working, they stopped.
Today when it's obviously not working, they fight even harder in a "war" they can't possibly win.
Guess people really were smarter back then. :banghead:
since9
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Apparently. I'll take the side about how one of the government's few roles is to ensure men do not harm one another. You wanna destroy yourself with alcohol and drugs, that's fine. Before you do, however, please waive your rights to pooled health insurance so that my premiums aren't paying for your foolishness. You go through detox, you should foot the bill, not my taxpayer dollars.
Brass Magnet
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That's a problem with the welfare state though; which we shouldn't have anyway. It's non sequitur to bring it up against a pro-liberty agenda. I agree they should foot the bill but even if the argument followed we'd probably save as much money on our tax bills via declining prison population to make up for whatever extra might be spent on medical care.
Metalhead47
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Your taxpayer dollars should not be footing the bill for ANYONE'S health premiums... or anyone's else's anything at all in the first place.
Metalhead47
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since9
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Saying it doesn't make it so. Heroin is highly additive. Alcohol is mildly addictive. Cold-turkey withdrawal from alcohol is milder than heroin, too. The difference is that severe alcohol withdrawal can prove fatal, but the rates are very low. Just 5% of those withdrawing experience true DTs, and of those, only 5%-15% will result in death under managed care, about 35% without managed care. So, for all who're withdrawing, 5% experience DTs, 0.25%-0.75% will result in death under managed care, 1.17% without managed care. If you are withdrawing, managed care is ok, but you can do it on your own, as well. Just take a good multi-vitamin like GNC's Mens Mega for two days beforehand, hydrate (water) well and eat healthy. You might not get much sleep for a couple of days, but you won't die. Nearly all of the cases of DTs accompanied by death occur in severe alcoholics who've remained intoxicated for weeks on end, and of those, it's usually only the malnourished ones who buy the farm.
From your article: "Led by the sacked government drugs adviser David Nutt with colleagues from the breakaway Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs..."
You're trusting one study, against thousands of others which dispute it, from an advisor that was fired for incompetence, and done by a fly-by-night and unapproved group....
Hmm. Next you'll be arguing that because we can't fight it, the government should not only legalize all drugs, but should supply all citizens whatever they want for free because it would be less expensive than fighting it.
sudden valley gunner
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So Since? If heroin were to become legal tomorrow are you going to run out and buy some? I doubt it. And the laws we have now don't stop people who want to use it from using it. The laws do wast billions of dollars, increase tyranny and socialism (drug control is socialism, you are trying to force people to conform to your social standards), and massive amount of death and mayhem in the streets and borders costing human lives in the violence created by prohibition.
Even if everything you say is absolutely true, I would rather live with the problem of dealing with free people than not live in a free society.
Every year gravity kills many people, more people in my job construction die from it than LEO's in their job, should we outlaw gravity? Especially since children and the elderly are easy victims of it's harsh reality? No, because doing so would not negate the effects of the natural law of gravity, and it will continue to hurt people.
Outlawing drugs (and many other ridiculous laws) does not negate peoples natural desire to choose what they want to do for themselves. Let's learn to live with the dangers of being free without trying to control every little thing someone does.
Now this doesn't mean you don't have recourse if damaged by someone who abuses mind altering substances. That's what the courts are for.
Even if everything you say is absolutely true, I would rather live with the problem of dealing with free people than not live in a free society.
Every year gravity kills many people, more people in my job construction die from it than LEO's in their job, should we outlaw gravity? Especially since children and the elderly are easy victims of it's harsh reality? No, because doing so would not negate the effects of the natural law of gravity, and it will continue to hurt people.
Outlawing drugs (and many other ridiculous laws) does not negate peoples natural desire to choose what they want to do for themselves. Let's learn to live with the dangers of being free without trying to control every little thing someone does.
Now this doesn't mean you don't have recourse if damaged by someone who abuses mind altering substances. That's what the courts are for.