ixtow
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Hef wrote:
1) How does 'confusing the officers' give him an 'opportunity' to fire? If he wanted to shoot cops, why didn't he just do it? A confrontation would put him in a very tactically unsound position for doing so. C'mon, do you think I'm dumb enough not to notice that? If he wanted to hunt cops, I think a bright orange shiny thing would be the opposite of what he would do. He'd hunker down a few hundred yards from a ranger station, hide himself well, and wait. But he didn't do that. Nor did he do anything that would give him an 'opportunity' to fire on anyone at all. This argument is absurd to the extreme and you know it!
2) 7.62x39 will penetrate most vests already. "AP Rounds" in this caliber is a misnomer, at best. Maybe he finds some old Chinese steel core. It really isn't much more 'armor piercing' than anything else available for that gun. Get over it and stop lying already...
You guys are so hopped up on trying to insult the guy that you've missed the whole point.
He's just trying to expose a whole bunch of BS Propaganda at once.
"Armor Piercing," "Assault Weapon," Toy Designator, etc... It's all a stupid idiocy of Propagandists trying to make Gun A seem worse than Gun B, and you're going along with it.
Aside from maybe SLAP, there is no such thing as "armor piercing" ammunition. There is simply ammo that no one has invented a way to stop yet, and ammo that someone has invented a way to stop.
There is no such thing an an 'assault weapon.' It is just a scary name/category that gun-haters made up, into which they place guns that they want to ban. "Gun" wasn't getting the shock value they needed, so they made up a new word and slowly but surely re-classified every gun ever made into it. Look back through their usage of the term 'assault weapon' and you'll see not one gun has ever escaped being called an 'assault weapon.'
Designating an Orange Tip on Toy Guns was supposed to be a safety measure to keep trigger happy cops from blasting kids for sport. there were a few other excuses for it, but the fact remains, anyone can grab a can of orange spray paint and duplicate it. If a person bent on doing harm were to paint the tip Orange and say "nah, it's just an airsoft"... Think about it. Such a person could expose their weapon in public, no one would panic, and he do one hell of a lot more damage..... An ugly idea, but if you don't think like a criminal, you can't defend yourself from one. The creation of the "Orange Tip" didn't make anyone safer from a toy gun that can't hurt anything because it's a toy and cops still blast kids with squirt guns and orange tips, but it DID create a way for REAL GUNS to become a more effective criminal device.
He's brought all of these legitimate issues into light in a very public way, yet no one wants to talk about anything but how he's a dick for not going to the back of the bus?
Sad, weak, stupid people, these.
Hef wrote:
Claiming that you know his intent does not mean that you actually do.slowfiveoh wrote:The first pic is the AK, the 2nd is a rifle, and the rest are handguns that fit into holsters. He chose the AK because it was likely to cause a negative reaction and get him a confrontation with police, where the orange muzzle would confuse the officers ("is it real, or is it a toy?") and give him the opportunity to fire.blah blah blah I didn't read the whole story blah blah blah
He asked about AP rounds for his AK. Why would he carry AP rounds in his AK if it's a carry weapon? Well, since he already has established the intent to engage police officers, and police officers are the only group who most citizens regularly encounter wearing armor, any reasonable person would assume he intends to use the AP rounds to defeat LEO's body armor in his confrontation.
Come on dude, you're smart enough to figure that out, aren't you?
1) How does 'confusing the officers' give him an 'opportunity' to fire? If he wanted to shoot cops, why didn't he just do it? A confrontation would put him in a very tactically unsound position for doing so. C'mon, do you think I'm dumb enough not to notice that? If he wanted to hunt cops, I think a bright orange shiny thing would be the opposite of what he would do. He'd hunker down a few hundred yards from a ranger station, hide himself well, and wait. But he didn't do that. Nor did he do anything that would give him an 'opportunity' to fire on anyone at all. This argument is absurd to the extreme and you know it!
2) 7.62x39 will penetrate most vests already. "AP Rounds" in this caliber is a misnomer, at best. Maybe he finds some old Chinese steel core. It really isn't much more 'armor piercing' than anything else available for that gun. Get over it and stop lying already...
You guys are so hopped up on trying to insult the guy that you've missed the whole point.
He's just trying to expose a whole bunch of BS Propaganda at once.
"Armor Piercing," "Assault Weapon," Toy Designator, etc... It's all a stupid idiocy of Propagandists trying to make Gun A seem worse than Gun B, and you're going along with it.
Aside from maybe SLAP, there is no such thing as "armor piercing" ammunition. There is simply ammo that no one has invented a way to stop yet, and ammo that someone has invented a way to stop.
There is no such thing an an 'assault weapon.' It is just a scary name/category that gun-haters made up, into which they place guns that they want to ban. "Gun" wasn't getting the shock value they needed, so they made up a new word and slowly but surely re-classified every gun ever made into it. Look back through their usage of the term 'assault weapon' and you'll see not one gun has ever escaped being called an 'assault weapon.'
Designating an Orange Tip on Toy Guns was supposed to be a safety measure to keep trigger happy cops from blasting kids for sport. there were a few other excuses for it, but the fact remains, anyone can grab a can of orange spray paint and duplicate it. If a person bent on doing harm were to paint the tip Orange and say "nah, it's just an airsoft"... Think about it. Such a person could expose their weapon in public, no one would panic, and he do one hell of a lot more damage..... An ugly idea, but if you don't think like a criminal, you can't defend yourself from one. The creation of the "Orange Tip" didn't make anyone safer from a toy gun that can't hurt anything because it's a toy and cops still blast kids with squirt guns and orange tips, but it DID create a way for REAL GUNS to become a more effective criminal device.
He's brought all of these legitimate issues into light in a very public way, yet no one wants to talk about anything but how he's a dick for not going to the back of the bus?
Sad, weak, stupid people, these.