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Your Thoughts on Para Ordnance 1911's?

09jisaac

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Not entirely true. The guns that Todd Jarrett uses in "Stock" class are Para's, and they have to be, by USPSA regulations, quite literally box-stock. They can have trigger jobs and you can replace the sights, but that's about it as far as customization and tweaking...

You can have the throat/slide polished and a trigger job. Those can potentially really change the feel/handling/reliability of a gun. I don't want to take a gun straight from the gun store to a gun smith to have it where it would shoot reliably or smooth.

USPSA 2004
ISPC: 19.1 Modifications to them, other than minor detailing, are prohibited.
USPSA: 21.4 Action work to enhance reliability (throating, trigger work, etc.) is allowed.

I am not saying he didn't get a production model and put it straight into competition. And I am not saying that para is a bad gun. I am just saying you cannot accurately say that a manufacturer is producing quality goods just because someone famous uses their product.
 

Xulld

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You can have the throat/slide polished and a trigger job. Those can potentially really change the feel/handling/reliability of a gun. I don't want to take a gun straight from the gun store to a gun smith to have it where it would shoot reliably or smooth.

USPSA 2004
ISPC: 19.1 Modifications to them, other than minor detailing, are prohibited.
USPSA: 21.4 Action work to enhance reliability (throating, trigger work, etc.) is allowed.

I am not saying he didn't get a production model and put it straight into competition. And I am not saying that para is a bad gun. I am just saying you cannot accurately say that a manufacturer is producing quality goods just because someone famous uses their product.

Very true, you also cant say from a personal anecdote that a weapon is unreliable. It takes the kind of data collection that we end users just do not have. My own para, rocks, that is all I can add to the conversation but it is just a single anecdotal account.

On that same field I have had several different branded short barrel 1911's give me feeding problems. For me a full size or commander at the smallest is the best options.

It would be interesting if we had some survey data on these factors.
 

09jisaac

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Very true, you also cant say from a personal anecdote that a weapon is unreliable.

No, I am not saying that they are unreliable. The para I have held/shot was a very reliable gun what I shot it. But the trigger was unnecessarily heavy, the slide had very noticeable machining marks and a huge burr and para shipped the wrong magazine with it. When you buy a gun you expect the whole package. Reliability is important but not so much so that I would forget about everything else. Many guns are pushing 100% reliable, why settle for just that.
 

Xulld

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No, I am not saying that they are unreliable. The para I have held/shot was a very reliable gun what I shot it. But the trigger was unnecessarily heavy, the slide had very noticeable machining marks and a huge burr and para shipped the wrong magazine with it. When you buy a gun you expect the whole package. Reliability is important but not so much so that I would forget about everything else. Many guns are pushing 100% reliable, why settle for just that.
Yea I would have been very upset to recv a new weapon in that shape any brand.
 
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