Light game is about all your gonna hunt with that BB gun, I'll go after the big game for the rest of us with my AK
You do that, and thanks.
I love the retard level machismo associated with the round size. Not only is that just stupid, so is professing to hunt any reasonable game with the 7.62x39. Even if it is relatively close to .30-30, you have several things working better for you on a .30-30.
--Longer barrel
--Better sights
--Nice compact firing system with no offset bolt
.30-30 is far > than the AK when it comes to utility.
Lots of dead Fedayeen, Republican Guard, Al-Queda and Taliban by that "BB-gun".
Seems the only reasonable way to get us back, with their mass numbers of AK's and all, is to blow us up with IED's, RPG's, or Mortars.
I wonder why that is?
Let me know when your belly gets hungry from trying to sneak up on game close enough to ensure success with your overgassed, floppy, "reliable" mud-gun.
I'll eat rabbit, and bird of my choosing and even small deer. Except, unlike you and your round associated bravado, I will be eating my game off the spit, while you're still trying to hit yours.
I would be interested in knowing what types of guns you are referring to, ammo that was used, which positions were shot from, whether the Ak's had bi pods on them, and which sighting configurations were used. These things make a BIG difference, and I would venture to say that like most AK users the people you are referring to used russian ammo with the hard to use stock sights, if not other detrimental problems as well.
Most of the rifles I came across where Iraqi stockpile AK's that were well stored and in reasonable condition. They were also fed decent ammo from their own military stockpile, but I would believe that much of their ammo came from hidden stores as well.
Now here's the perversion for dreamland.
--Do you really think all M16/M4's handed to a soldier are bright gleaming new? If you do, then you have obviously never served a day in your life.
--Would it shock you to know that some even had bent sight posts?
--How about excessive clearance between the upper and lower receiver making the weapon a bit harder to stabilize due to lateral slop?
--Are you under the misguided ideology that all M16's/M4's have bipods, optics, etc.? Sorry, but very few do.
--Firing positions? Usually IED ambush prep, meaning likely firing positions are well planned out, and the physical firing position would be very likely either A). inclined supported pron or B). Kneeling (It is only after fire is effectively returned that they usually scamper)
Also, ballistics depend on what you're looking for. The .223 is bad mouthed by many, at least many of those bound to FMJ ammo, because of the lack of temporary wound cavity expansion at greater distances, whereas the larger AK bullet will still make a little bigger hole at lower velocities, even if not at that nice and flat trajectory which makes the AR more easy to shoot accurately at longer distances. Superior ballistics depends solely on the needs of a shooter.
It is easy to watch some of the worlds best civilian shooters sit back and fire from their comfy benches, knocking penny's off of targets @ 600m, and appreicate their skill. It is far removed, and completely different, to be in the suck drawing fire, and return fire with any sort of competent accuracy.
I promise you that you want a platform that can return fire effectively, and provide movement coverage without rising its nose into the stratosphere while doing so.
Your "dependant upon shooter" scenario would also be lovely, if you did include the reality of fire under duress, and the fact that not every shooter can be a competition level master.
Furthermore, the nature of the round (7.62x39) with its poor coefficient and low velocity make it the proverbial sail in the breeze.
Hope your long firing AK specialist brought a ballistics computer with him and a lot of windsocks to put up in the middle of the Iraqi desert.
Just sayin...