Please review the below discussion.
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...tianity-and-self-defense&highlight=John+Piper
:banana: i enjoyed that discussion...
ipse
Please review the below discussion.
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...tianity-and-self-defense&highlight=John+Piper
You were post #2 in that thread.
He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
— Luke 22:36, NIV
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Religion is cool.
Just make sure you have a taster for his 'communion wine'...
He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
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Exodus 22:2-3New International Version (NIV)
2 “If a thief is caught breaking in at night and is struck a fatal blow, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed; 3 but if it happens after sunrise, the defender is guilty of bloodshed.
“Anyone who steals must certainly make restitution, but if they have nothing, they must be sold to pay for their theft.
In other words, the Law is saying that lethal self-defense is allowed, but we are not to hunt down thieves and kill them; larceny is not a capital crime. The sun having risen cannot be taken in a rigidly literal sense; it indicates the thief being found at some later time, rather than while he was breaking in as in the first scenario. Above-mentioned was from a preacher. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk
Luke 22:37–39 (ESV)
37 For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.” 38 And they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” And he said to them, “It is enough.” Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk
Today is the Sabbath day.Maybe yours, not mine, therefore not ours. Tomorrow is Sunday and I have the calendrical liturgical lessons to read, then their scriptural context, historical context and Martin Luther's commentary and/or sermons using them. Tomorrow is Pentecost.
If the story is to be believed, then Jesus worked on Friday, slept on Saturday (the Sabbath, not working), and then went back to work on Sunday. Thus making a great observation of the Sabbath.That is correct. And tomorrow is Sunday, The Lord's Day commemorating the Resurrection first witnessed early on the first day of the week and the central mystery of Christianity.
The commandment is to remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. For six days do all thou art able, and on the Seventh, pound on the cable.
Exodus 22:2-3New International Version (NIV)
2 “If a thief is caught breaking in at night and is struck a fatal blow, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed; 3 but if it happens after sunrise, the defender is guilty of bloodshed.
“Anyone who steals must certainly make restitution, but if they have nothing, they must be sold to pay for their theft.
In other words, the Law is saying that lethal self-defense is allowed, but we are not to hunt down thieves and kill them; larceny is not a capital crime. The sun having risen cannot be taken in a rigidly literal sense; it indicates the thief being found at some later time, rather than while he was breaking in as in the first scenario.
Above-mentioned was from a preacher.
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added: quote: They must now expect that their enemies would be more fierce than they had been, and they would need weapons. At the time the apostles understood Christ to mean real weapons, but he spake only of the weapons of the spiritual warfare. The sword of the Spirit is the sword with which the disciples of Christ must furnish themselves. unquote http://biblehub.com/commentaries/luke/22-36.htm Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
WTF? Please ask Henry since when the "sword of the spirit" can be bought with gold? Sounds like he didn't think this through...
Each of Citizen's points above, on self-incrimination and conjecture, are extensively covered in James Franklin's The Science of Conjecture: Evidence and Probability Before Pascal (JHU 2015).
The historical nature and evolution of proof is very much the central topic of this book. Without a formal calculus of logic, verisimilitude (now-a-days, truthiness) and likelihood (probability), our modern conception of proof is not possible, or indeed truth.
To the Sanhedrin proof was the accusation of at least two accusers of even inchoate crime as of heresy or conspiracy.
I wonder, what would Professor Levy regard as proof in this instance, proof of Sanhedrin influence on English jurisprudence?
darn stealthy...that one is so easy...don't need to ask 'Henry' nada
Ephesians 6:17 states: "take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God."
cited whichever good book youlike..
and if you don't believe the Book...http://www.gotquestions.org/sword-of-the-Spirit.html
quote:
The sword is both an offensive and defensive weapon used by soldiers or warriors. In this case it is a weapon belonging to the Holy Spirit. Swords were used to protect oneself from harm or to attack the enemy to overcome or kill him. In both cases it was necessary for a soldier to get rigid training on the proper use of the sword to get maximum protection. All Christian soldiers need the same rigid training to know how to properly handle the Sword of the Spirit, “which is the word of God.” The sword that Paul refers to here is the Holy Scriptures. We know from 2 Timothy 3:16–17 that the word of God is from the Holy Spirit and written by men. Since every Christian is on the spiritual battle with the satanic and evil forces of this world, we need to know how to handle the Word properly. Only then will it be an effective defense against evil, but it will also be an offensive weapon we use to “demolish strongholds” of error and falsehood (2 Corinthians 10:4–5) unquote
more about the sword in the article cited
ipse
You got me, but, you answer as if I asked "how" and not "since when." Not every use of the word sword is a reference to the sword of the spirit. Jesus was not telling them to go buy Bibles, which didn't exist yet. When he told them to buy swords if they didn't have any, they said here's two, and Jesus said it was enough. He didn't say "that's not what I meant." And just a bit later, the ear of a guard was cut off with one of those swords, so it was probably the bladed weapon, and not a book.
where are you pulling this information from...comic book, holy book, the Daily Star, Esquire, TMZ?
Stealthy, term under discussion was the sword of the spirit...then you threw some reference to gold in, now, i have some poor guard, where i am truly not sure where the devil the guard manifested from, who's ear is missing ~ similar to van Gogh!!
ipse
Maybe the Orson Wells' radio drama, but not H. G. Wells' novel in the first six chapters.
http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/36/pg36.txt