Except that Barack Obama was an “adulterous bastard” child under the law. As such, he would inherit his “citizenship” from his mother, not his father! His mother was an American citizen and therefore he would be a natural born citizen.
It is actually a little more complicated analysis than this, but that is the gist of it.
My point is that she is not a citizen of the United States, period! She is not natural born or naturalized!I'm no fan of Country Joe and the Hoe, but are you sure about this statement? "Ms. Harris was a citizen of Jamaica and therefore could not be a natural born citizen of the United States" Why can she not be both?
I agree with almost every major point of the article except one. Under current law, as articulated by the Supreme Ct., the parents do not have to be citizens for the child to be born a natural citizen. You may conclude that the SC decided Wong Kim Ark incorrectly, however that is the current state of the law.AFA.net - Kamala Harris Is Not Eligible to Be Vice-President of the United States
Kamala Harris Is Not Eligible to Be Vice-President of the United States
I agree with almost every major point of the article except one. Under current law, as articulated by the Supreme Ct., the parents do not have to be citizens for the child to be born a natural citizen. You may conclude that the SC decided Wong Kim Ark incorrectly, however that is the current state of the law.
IT TAKES TWO ( natural born citizens ) OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, BORN ON AMERICAN SOIL, TO HAVE A CHILD WHO THEN BECOMES A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN., NOT JUST ONE PARENT, PERIOD.Except that Barack Obama was an “adulterous bastard” child under the law. As such, he would inherit his “citizenship” from his mother, not his father! His mother was an American citizen and therefore he would be a natural born citizen.
It is actually a little more complicated analysis than this, but that is the gist of it.
BARACK OBOMA WAS AN ILLEGAL PRESIDENT AND A USURPER.IT TAKES TWO ( natural born citizens ) OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, BORN ON AMERICAN SOIL, TO HAVE A CHILD WHO THEN BECOMES A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN., NOT JUST ONE PARENT, PERIOD.
Wong Kim Ark was held to be a natural born citizen by the SC and NEITHER one of his parents were citizens of the US. So you are wrong.IT TAKES TWO ( natural born citizens ) OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, BORN ON AMERICAN SOIL, TO HAVE A CHILD WHO THEN BECOMES A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN., NOT JUST ONE PARENT, PERIOD.
Claiming to be an attorney, cocked&locked, your language would easily get you sanctioned under the rules of professional conduct. Attorneys have a moral and ethical duty to treat all persons with courtesy and respect, and not bringing disrespect to the legal profession. That you have done. Let alone your disregard for the forum rules.For the 4 idiots constantly spewing nonsense on this forum, the cite is Dr. Cocked&Locked, Attorney At Law extraordinaire.
For the rest of the forum that has some degree of reading comprehension, they already have realized that I cited Wong Kim Ark!
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But that is not the end of the story. There are many cases after Wong dealing with what is a “natural-born citizen.” And after many cases addressing this subject, the best original meaning of the Eligibility Clause is that any person defined as a citizen at birth (irrespective parental status) by common law (law of the soil), Constitution (14th Amendment) or even ever-changing statutes is eligible to the presidency.In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite, when construing, in behalf of the court, the very provision of the Fourteenth Amendment now in question, said: ‘The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.’ And he proceeded to resort to the common law as an aid in the construction of this provision. 21 Wall. 167.
For the 4 idiots constantly spewing nonsense on this forum, the cite is Dr. Cocked&Locked, Attorney At Law extraordinaire.
For the rest of the forum that has some degree of reading comprehension, they already have realized that I cited Wong Kim Ark!
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Why Kamala Harris does not qualify to be President or Vice President.
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...it is my opinion...
I believe Twain stated it quite succinctly...
Opinions based upon theory, superstition, and ignorance are not very precious.
Mark Twain in a Letter to J. H. Twitchell, 1/27/1900
Outstanding. I have long argued that just because someone is born in the United States does not mean they are automatically citizens. The phrase, " and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is the reason for this. At the time that the 14th Amendment was being considered there was much discussion about the idea of people coming into the country, having children, and then being allowed to remain because the law would consider their progeny to be citizens. Of course this is not true but through the years, most people believe it to be true.
The OP's post is an excellent short dissertation on the facts of this matter and I sincerely thank him for his effort. It does a great job of describing the issue and dispelling the misgivings of the content of the first part of this amendment.