Marcus92183
Regular Member
The governor won't sign it and they won't have enough to override a veto. Won't happen.
i hope you are right!
The governor won't sign it and they won't have enough to override a veto. Won't happen.
This just in: "An Act To Clarify the Law Concerning the Threatening Display of Dangerous Weapons" H.P. 255 L.D. 380 / Ought to Pass Prevails
I think it was 20-15 vote. Hope Governor has his veto pen ready!
Lots of gun bills up today. I am watching live here.. http://www.maine.gov/legis/audio/direct/SenateV.html
so far this is what went down.
"An Act To Repeal the Restriction on Employers Regarding Firearms Kept in an Employee's Vehicle" S.P. 98 L.D. 265 / Motion from Gerzofskey Minority Report Ought to Pass / The Great Dictators Motion has been defeated! 20-15
"An Act Regarding the Sale of Firearms at Gun Shows" S.P. 100 L.D. 267 / has been defeated / 19-16
Be it enacted by the People of the State of Maine as follows:
Sec. 1. 25 MRSA §2001-A, sub-§1, as enacted by PL 2003, c. 452, Pt. N, §2 and affected by Pt. X, §2, is amended to read:
1. Display or carrying prohibited. A person may not, unless excepted by a provision of law:
A. Display in a threatening manner a firearm, slungshot, knuckles, bowie knife, dirk, stiletto or other dangerous or deadly weapon usually employed in the attack on or defense of a person . For purposes of this paragraph, "display in a threatening manner" includes to display in a public place in a manner that causes a reasonable person to suffer intimidation or alarm; or
B. Wear under the person's clothes or conceal about the person's person a firearm, slungshot, knuckles, bowie knife, dirk, stiletto or other dangerous or deadly weapon usually employed in the attack on or defense of a person.
SUMMARY
This bill amends the law regarding threatening display or carrying of a dangerous weapon by clarifying that "display in a threatening manner" includes to display a dangerous or deadly weapon in a public place in a way that causes a reasonable person to suffer intimidation or alarm.
Amend the bill by striking out everything after the enacting clause and before the summary and inserting the following:
‘Sec. 1. 25 MRSA §2001-A, sub-§1, as enacted by PL 2003, c. 452, Pt. N, §2 and affected by Pt. X, §2, is amended to read:
1. Display or carrying prohibited. A person may not, unless excepted by a provision of law:
A. Display in a threatening manner a firearm, slungshot, knuckles, bowie knife, dirk, stiletto or other dangerous or deadly weapon usually employed in the attack on or defense of a person; or
B. Wear under the person's clothes or conceal Conceal about the person's person a firearm, slungshot, knuckles, bowie knife, dirk, stiletto or other dangerous or deadly weapon usually employed in the attack on or defense of a person. As used in this paragraph, "conceal" means to carry hidden from the detection and view of another person, either upon or about the person, in a purse or other container belonging to the person or in a vehicle that is operated by the person or in which the person is a passenger; or
C. While in possession of a dangerous or deadly weapon in a public place, refuse to provide that person's name, address and date of birth at the request of a uniformed law enforcement officer or a properly identified law enforcement officer not in uniform, if the totality of circumstances is such as to lead the officer to reasonably believe that the protection of public safety requires such identification.
As used in this subsection, "dangerous or deadly weapon" has the same meaning as "dangerous weapon" in Title 17-A, section 2, subsection 9, paragraph C and "public place" has the same meaning as in Title 17-A, section 501-A, subsection 2, paragraph A.
Nothing in this subsection may be construed to prohibit a person in this State not otherwise prohibited by law from carrying a loaded or unloaded firearm openly upon the person or in a belt or shoulder holster that is wholly or partially visible.’
SUMMARY
This amendment replaces the bill and is the majority report of the committee. The amendment clarifies that, except as prohibited by law, a person has the right to carry an unconcealed firearm in this State. The amendment prohibits a person, unless excepted by law, from refusing to provide that person's name, address and date of birth at the request of a law enforcement officer if the person possesses a dangerous and deadly weapon in a public place if the totality of the circumstances is such as to lead the officer to reasonably believe that the protection of the public requires identification.
So would the new section B mean that one can no longer carry an unloaded pistol with load magazines separate from the gun?
Any idea if the governor will sign it?
Yes, in a vehicle. There is that last bit in section B that looks troubling.
B. Wear under the person's clothes or conceal Conceal about the person's person a firearm, slungshot, knuckles, bowie knife, dirk, stiletto or other dangerous or deadly weapon usually employed in the attack on or defense of a person. As used in this paragraph, "conceal" means to carry hidden from the detection and view of another person, either upon or about the person, in a purse or other container belonging to the person or in a vehicle that is operated by the person or in which the person is a passenger; or
I'm not from Maine and am not familiar with the governor's track record or leanings. Boyscout, you seem pretty certain that he won't sign. I'm hoping that turns out to be correct.
Not to beat a dead horse, but the current statute says without a permit, you can carry "loaded or concealed in a vehicle".
Not go back and read Section B. It gives the definition of conceal which says that carrying a firearm in a vehicle is by definition in the proposed statute concealed. No mention of loaded or unloaded at all. The proposed statute is worded very differently so as to change what is currently allowed under Maine law.
B. Wear under the person's clothes or conceal Conceal about the person's person a firearm, slungshot, knuckles, bowie knife, dirk, stiletto or other dangerous or deadly weapon usually employed in the attack on or defense of a person. As used in this paragraph, "conceal" means to carry hidden from the detection and view of another person, either upon or about the person, in a purse or other container belonging to the person or in a vehicle that is operated by the person or in which the person is a passenger; or
Of course, if the governor is going to veto it, then the issue is moot.
Not to beat a dead horse, but the current statute says without a permit, you can carry "loaded or concealed in a vehicle".
Great! We are lucky to have a governor that is on our side! Boyscout was right all along about this bill vetoed!