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“In plain view” definition for car carry

stingray4540

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Moving to Idaho and planning to pursue enhanced CWP, but can’t until after 6 months and I’m a resident. In the mean time I plan to open carry from day one and always when on my ranch.
Only question I have is how is “in plain view” defined in regards to vehicle carry.
If I OWB carry a glock, is that fine in my car? Or does it need to be viewable from outside the car?
 

solus

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Moving to Idaho and planning to pursue enhanced CWP, but can’t until after 6 months and I’m a resident. In the mean time I plan to open carry from day one and always when on my ranch.
Only question I have is how is “in plain view” defined in regards to vehicle carry.
If I OWB carry a glock, is that fine in my car? Or does it need to be viewable from outside the car?
First mistake is wanting to OC a Glock :shocker:, but to each their own.

Second, do you currently have a CC permit/license from your current locale? why not use those documents in the interim till you get apply for your DL & take appropriate training and apply for your 'enhanced' permit/license?

Third, per handgunlaw.us, quote: Time Period to Establish Residency: Upon Obtaining St. ID/Drivers License. unquote.
Fourth, https://www.accessidaho.org/laws-public-safety/gun-weapon-law/
 

stingray4540

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First mistake is wanting to OC a Glock :shocker:, but to each their own.

Second, do you currently have a CC permit/license from your current locale? why not use those documents in the interim till you get apply for your DL & take appropriate training and apply for your 'enhanced' permit/license?

Third, per handgunlaw.us, quote: Time Period to Establish Residency: Upon Obtaining St. ID/Drivers License. unquote.
Fourth, https://www.accessidaho.org/laws-public-safety/gun-weapon-law/
Thanks for responding! Couldn’t get the AG or the sheriff too...

Well, it’s the only sidearm I own. Stepdad sold my 1911 without my knowledge when I was a teen. Been living in a communist country last decade so no real reason to spend money of pistols I can’t use.

As mentioned before, I’m coming from a communist country, so no, I don’t unfortunately :(

In just about every state I’ve ever dealt with, residency isn’t established until 6 months of living in the state. However, if CWP laws in ID consider residency to be when you get a license, then I will definitely take advantage of that.
However, that doesn’t really answer my question about the definition of “in plain view”
 

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Your kind attention is directed to this rather lengthy ID AG’s opinion on the legislature’s lack of clarity...

https://www.ag.idaho.gov/content/uploads/2018/04/OP90-03.pdf

Glance over and look towards the end of the document I believe you will see there is no clear consensus on term(s)...

enjoy the obvious humour by the AG towards a lack of legislative clarity.
 

Firearms Iinstuctor

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Moving to Idaho and planning to pursue enhanced CWP, but can’t until after 6 months and I’m a resident. In the mean time I plan to open carry from day one and always when on my ranch.
Only question I have is how is “in plain view” defined in regards to vehicle carry.
If I OWB carry a glock, is that fine in my car? Or does it need to be viewable from outside the car?
What's plain view that's a good question at least in Wis. a bag of pot laying on the seat is in plain view.

A handgun in the same spot is concealed.

Your right it does not make sense.

When it comes to firearms common sense has been thrown out the window.

When it comes to the 2nd amendment that right has been down played, lied about. The anti's have done every thing in their power to destroy it.

Be very careful about vehicle carry it is a whole different area.
 

OC Freedom

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Moving to Idaho and planning to pursue enhanced CWP, but can’t until after 6 months and I’m a resident. In the mean time I plan to open carry from day one and always when on my ranch.
Only question I have is how is “in plain view” defined in regards to vehicle carry.
If I OWB carry a glock, is that fine in my car? Or does it need to be viewable from outside the car?
In plain view means here in Idaho that if it is open carried on your person even in a vehicle, it is considered okay. Doesn't matter if it is partially block by the seat or seat belt. If it is clearly visible from one point of angle on your person outside of the vehicle you are good to go. Remember when you get your drivers license and this makes you a resident of Idaho, then you can carry concealed for Idaho without a permit. Idaho is a constitutional carry state for residents only within city limits. Outside of city limits anyone can carry concealed. Hope this helps.
 

stingray4540

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In plain view means here in Idaho that if it is open carried on your person even in a vehicle, it is considered okay. Doesn't matter if it is partially block by the seat or seat belt. If it is clearly visible from one point of angle on your person outside of the vehicle you are good to go. Remember when you get your drivers license and this makes you a resident of Idaho, then you can carry concealed for Idaho without a permit. Idaho is a constitutional carry state for residents only within city limits. Outside of city limits anyone can carry concealed. Hope this helps.
Thanks! That helps a lot. First straight answer I’ve gotten on this yet. Yes, I understand that the 6 months only applies to city limits, but I’m the kind of person who gets used to wearing on my property and around a small town then completely forget when I head into a city. Then again, I’m not sure what is considered a city vs town, etc.

So, you say DL makes me a resident? So could I apply for CWP with a DL but less than 6 months?
I assumed that the 6 months rule would apply to CWP elegibility as well.
 

stingray4540

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What's plain view that's a good question at least in Wis. a bag of pot laying on the seat is in plain view.

A handgun in the same spot is concealed.

Your right it does not make sense.

When it comes to firearms common sense has been thrown out the window.

When it comes to the 2nd amendment that right has been down played, lied about. The anti's have done every thing in their power to destroy it.

Be very careful about vehicle carry it is a whole different area.
That’s exactly why I ask. I’ve seen so many goofy laws from so many states, you can’t just trust common sense.
 

gutshot II

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In plain view means here in Idaho that if it is open carried on your person even in a vehicle, it is considered okay. Doesn't matter if it is partially block by the seat or seat belt. If it is clearly visible from one point of angle on your person outside of the vehicle you are good to go. Remember when you get your drivers license and this makes you a resident of Idaho, then you can carry concealed for Idaho without a permit. Idaho is a constitutional carry state for residents only within city limits. Outside of city limits anyone can carry concealed. Hope this helps.
Cite, please.
 
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