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Carrying on public then to private property

NewZealandAmerican

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In many states you can open carry without a permit on public property like the street but you need a permit to cover your gun (conceal carry) in public on the street which is how the law is usually written so my question is not having a permit, once stepping off the street into a private business couldn't you cover your gun and conceal and not be considered violating the concealed carry law?
 

skidmark

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It is a crime in Utah to conceal a firearm about the person. A state permit serves as an exception to that law. You may also carry concealed without a permit on your own property or place of business, and sometimes in your vehicle. Most states have similar laws and exceptions.

So the basic answer to your question would be that if you concealed your firearm without having a permit to do so you would most likely be violating the law.

stay safe.
 
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open4years

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It depends on the state laws. Look up the law in your state. In GA, it used to be legal to OC without a permit. Now, a Firearms Permit is required to OC and to CC.

A semi-related story:

I had concealed carried (even though I believe in OC) 98% of the time in my local doctor's office. Then, the company that owns the office put up a no firearms sign. It pissed me off and I told the secretary that if I'm denied the right to carry, then they should protect me. It didn't go well!

So, on my next visit, I asked the Doctor if HE had a problem with my concealed carry as I had done on almost every visit. He reached down and shook a pistol in his pocket. I guessed right, it was a Ruger LCP .380.

It turns out that someone called in to say that they were going to kill the doctor and everyone else there. He was happy that I was carrying, but I told him I wasn't carrying as I wanted to talk to him first. He said he wanted to go to his truck to get his .40, but one of "the girls" had the LCP.

We were escorted out, to our vehicle, by law enforcement. One officer said he believed in the right to carry. The other said if you open carry, you are making yourself a target. No, I didn't bring up OC or CC.

I see it both ways. If I was to rob a bank and I saw a guy with a gun, I would come back another day. Perhaps another robber would take me out. The point is, it is my choice. As it is with you. I suggest a permit, depending on your state laws.

Alan
 

Ezek

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It depends on the state laws. Look up the law in your state. In GA, it used to be legal to OC without a permit. Now, a Firearms Permit is required to OC and to CC.

A semi-related story:

I had concealed carried (even though I believe in OC) 98% of the time in my local doctor's office. Then, the company that owns the office put up a no firearms sign. It pissed me off and I told the secretary that if I'm denied the right to carry, then they should protect me. It didn't go well!

So, on my next visit, I asked the Doctor if HE had a problem with my concealed carry as I had done on almost every visit. He reached down and shook a pistol in his pocket. I guessed right, it was a Ruger LCP .380.

It turns out that someone called in to say that they were going to kill the doctor and everyone else there. He was happy that I was carrying, but I told him I wasn't carrying as I wanted to talk to him first. He said he wanted to go to his truck to get his .40, but one of "the girls" had the LCP.

We were escorted out, to our vehicle, by law enforcement. One officer said he believed in the right to carry. The other said if you open carry, you are making yourself a target. No, I didn't bring up OC or CC.


I see it both ways. If I was to rob a bank and I saw a guy with a gun, I would come back another day. Perhaps another robber would take me out. The point is, it is my choice. As it is with you. I suggest a permit, depending on your state laws.

Alan
officer who believed is cool, other.. well I would have asked him if that is how he feels everyday when he suits up for duty. when he said yes, I would have said so you feel like you are making yourself a target by carrying you issued sidearm?.. that might be considered a little paranoid by some. but I would say it in a way that the sarcasm was a little noted.

it is cool that your doctor carries.

in regards to the OP. it depends on the owner of the private property and your state law, here in MO we can carry open or concealed on our own private property, or the private property of another with permission to do so. so life is good here in MO in t\hat regard.. or MO Supreme Court however needs a swift kick in the rump for stating that the ballot proposal for amending the state constitution was pretty much smoke blown up our rumps and has changed nothing.
 
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