h20squirter
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Stand up job of handling someone whom is both ignorant and self-righteous. Very classy dialogue.
I would have liked to ask her this:
So if you are being a victim of a home invasion/rape at 0300hrs and your attacker gets sloppy and you managed to get to a phone and call the police are you going to tell them to come right away but leave their guns behind because you "don’t believe in guns?"
If she doesn't believe in guns, why does she sell (assumption on my part) them?
"Lady: Well, no "bad guys" have ever given me trouble, so I don't believe in guns."
You: "Hmm, don't believe in guns, eh? Well I can assure you they exist."
Ask her what's in my sig then watch her squirm and wiggle until she comes up with something that escapes the obvious answer.
...Second... I just tell people who ask, "It's part of my families...Self-Defense Plan." I use it to hold the bad guys at bay, until the police arrive.
Hold the BGs at bay???
No. If I ever draw, I am going to dispense with the threat. AFTER I am certain that the BGs have been stopped, I will call the police.
One should never draw without the intent to fire. It could happen that I wouldn't fire. (I couldn't imagine the circumstances.) But not firing will never be my intent. Not firing is, at most, a fall-back position, when (miraculously) I have had sufficient time to change my mind and follow another course of action.
All true, but I'm not sure I would say that to an anti-gunner. How about, "To stop the threat until the police arrive"? Whether you shoot or not, the police are almost certainly going to become involved and "stopping the threat" covers everything from letting the bad guy run away to shooting him dead.
Stupid hurts.
I had the same conversation with a grocery store clerk one night at midnight. The sad fact of the matter is that the people who have that viewpoint just *can't* fathom that a thing like that would happen, until there's a gun in their face. It's one of those things you learn about the hard way. Then they demonize the instrument to cope with the PTSD. Shaking my head....
Yeah, you'd best start believing in guns. There's one right here, and it has the ability to kill you, just as soon as it leaves the holster.
All true, but I'm not sure I would say that to an anti-gunner. How about, "To stop the threat until the police arrive"? Whether you shoot or not, the police are almost certainly going to become involved and "stopping the threat" covers everything from letting the bad guy run away to shooting him dead.
...Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Qui docet praeceptores
Because it is cool.....not in a "bad" way. Romans and likely the Greeks knew about government oppression long before our Founders.I will never understand the fascination with quoting Latin phrases. What is the point?
Hold the BGs at bay???
No. If I ever draw, I am going to dispense with the threat. AFTER I am certain that the BGs have been stopped, I will call the police.
One should never draw without the intent to fire. It could happen that I wouldn't fire. (I couldn't imagine the circumstances.) But not firing will never be my intent. Not firing is, at most, a fall-back position, when (miraculously) I have had sufficient time to change my mind and follow another course of action.
Defensive display is legal in many areas many crimes are stopped just by the knowledge that the victim is armed
Having the mind set of always going to shoot when one draws could very well lead to shooting when one doesn't have too.
There can be a very small, thin line or time frame between having to shoot and not having to shoot. Shooting to soon or to late can lead to bad out comes.
Knowledge, training, skill level, physical conditioning and many other factors can and could very well play a important role.
Or it just might come down to this SOB is going to kill me I need to defend myself right NOW.
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Drawing and shooting, you got the cart before the horse. Leave your pisstol in your pants until you have to shoot. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Qui docet praeceptores