SlimsBFG
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I was speeding a little and got pulled over, ooops. I had my XD45 locked (two padlocks on the handle)securely inside the case it came in, with the magazine lock (the one that comes with the gun also)in place too. I had some rounds in one of the magazines (left over from the last time I took it out shooting), they too were in the case, but not in the gun obviously. The gun was on the front passenger seats floorboard in plain sight. Inside the glovebox was my BH SERPA holster.
So the LEO walks up to my window and asks me the usual questions. He then asked me to get my drivers license, registration, and proof of insurance. He sees the holster and proceeds to ask me if I had a gun (he didn't notice it on the floorboard I guess). He then asked if I had a CFP to which I replied not yet. I got a bit nervouswhen he said I had a "concealed" gun in the carwith me. I took it like he was insinuating I was breaking the law and did the best to correct him. From the BCI website it says:
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It is lawful to carry a firearm in a vehicle without a permit if: the firearm is unloaded; securely encased (not including a glove box or console box) and is not readily accessible for immediate use.
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Was he using the incorrect terminology when describing how I was transporting my weapon? I got on the defensive a little and said I wasn't concealing the gun, as it was in open view on the floorboard, in a secured case, with about 6 or 7 actions needed to fire it!!! He back-peddled a little and said it was concealed INSIDE the case, but that I was OK. He then admonished me a little for not notifying him I had it right away. He also suggested I put it either on the backseat or in the trunk as well. I apologized for that, but he really didn't give me a chance to...From the time I opened the window to the time the gun discussion ended, he had been doing all the talking and I could only get out the replies. Of course I know now to politely interject that I am legally transporting my weapon BEFORE I answer any questions. So it was my bad mostly.
In the end though, we started talking about private citizens carrying their weapons and he was really all for it. He actually said he wished more people would get their CFPs! The only negative comment he made was the typical, once you get your CFP make sure to conceal it!!! My impression from that exchange was he wasn't keen on OCing! Protecting our rights to OC and dealing with LE is (IMHO) going to be a never-ending battle. I think the logic is flawed, since the bottom line whether I OC or CC, I have a FREAKING gun on my person!!!
I'm going to pose this ideato the any person so they can ponder it (if I ever encounter this in public) and ask them wouldthey feel safer in a store with all the "gun" people carrying openly OR having to wonder which one out of all thepeople concealing a gun(which of course, they'llhave no clue who they are)is a bad guy, because the good guys with holstered guns areNOT a threat (or the problem)!
I was speeding a little and got pulled over, ooops. I had my XD45 locked (two padlocks on the handle)securely inside the case it came in, with the magazine lock (the one that comes with the gun also)in place too. I had some rounds in one of the magazines (left over from the last time I took it out shooting), they too were in the case, but not in the gun obviously. The gun was on the front passenger seats floorboard in plain sight. Inside the glovebox was my BH SERPA holster.
So the LEO walks up to my window and asks me the usual questions. He then asked me to get my drivers license, registration, and proof of insurance. He sees the holster and proceeds to ask me if I had a gun (he didn't notice it on the floorboard I guess). He then asked if I had a CFP to which I replied not yet. I got a bit nervouswhen he said I had a "concealed" gun in the carwith me. I took it like he was insinuating I was breaking the law and did the best to correct him. From the BCI website it says:
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It is lawful to carry a firearm in a vehicle without a permit if: the firearm is unloaded; securely encased (not including a glove box or console box) and is not readily accessible for immediate use.
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Was he using the incorrect terminology when describing how I was transporting my weapon? I got on the defensive a little and said I wasn't concealing the gun, as it was in open view on the floorboard, in a secured case, with about 6 or 7 actions needed to fire it!!! He back-peddled a little and said it was concealed INSIDE the case, but that I was OK. He then admonished me a little for not notifying him I had it right away. He also suggested I put it either on the backseat or in the trunk as well. I apologized for that, but he really didn't give me a chance to...From the time I opened the window to the time the gun discussion ended, he had been doing all the talking and I could only get out the replies. Of course I know now to politely interject that I am legally transporting my weapon BEFORE I answer any questions. So it was my bad mostly.
In the end though, we started talking about private citizens carrying their weapons and he was really all for it. He actually said he wished more people would get their CFPs! The only negative comment he made was the typical, once you get your CFP make sure to conceal it!!! My impression from that exchange was he wasn't keen on OCing! Protecting our rights to OC and dealing with LE is (IMHO) going to be a never-ending battle. I think the logic is flawed, since the bottom line whether I OC or CC, I have a FREAKING gun on my person!!!
I'm going to pose this ideato the any person so they can ponder it (if I ever encounter this in public) and ask them wouldthey feel safer in a store with all the "gun" people carrying openly OR having to wonder which one out of all thepeople concealing a gun(which of course, they'llhave no clue who they are)is a bad guy, because the good guys with holstered guns areNOT a threat (or the problem)!