and you even drag the NC constitution into the fracas ~ where does the document discuss OC/CC criteria?
Yes, I will surely, if necessary, will drag the NC state constitution(s) into this.
Current and 1971 constitution? Sec. 30. Militia and the right to bear arms.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; and, as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they shall not be maintained, and the military shall be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power. Nothing herein shall justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons, or prevent the General Assembly from enacting penal statutes against that practice.
However, that last lil bit about concealed weapons? Invented for 1971. Damn lawyers. Because the 1776 and 1868 constitutions do not have that text.
Section 17, 1776. (or XVII for those who read Roman)
Section 24, 1868.
The first two constitutions didn't have, in amendments, codified separation of concealed carry regulation. (hmm...)
Yep, here's the Chapel Hill nonsense.
The Cary stuff.
Since were factchecking, a myriad, is a countless number or great deal of number. Exactly, according to you, since you brought it up, how much did I get wrong? I severely doubt its a great number, as your word choice, suggests.
I will say that the first handgun I bought, I was 21, and at the time, a PPP only counted for ONE handgun. If that has changed, and I am out of practice and didn't do a recent check.
And the current firearms laws of the Tarheel state (rev. Feb 2014)
NOTE: North Carolina law allows for the purchase of a single handgun with a single valid
purchase permit. Multiple long guns may be purchased with a single pistol purchase permit;
however, they must be purchased in a single transaction
So, what were you talking about the PPP and multiple handgun purchases (max 4 at a time)? The NCDOJ (or whomever composed this pdf) doesn't seem to share this fact.
please do not forget if a conspicuous sign posted ~ no firearms, OC/CC! Period!
I think anyone can generally read a conspicuous sign posted on a door, so I didn't cover it. However, if its just a picture, it should be, hilariously so, IMO, left open to interpretation.
This is no Berettas
This is no AR-15s/M-16s
No revolvers. Semi-autos only, of course.
Again. No six guns.
Now about the NCCHP, as a former state employee, we HAD TO have it, to store our weapons on state property in our respective vehicles. No ifs, no ands, or buts. Oh, and you did sign a waiver, that guards/cops/other bureaucrats with guns/dogs that sniff, can check your car, with a hit. If not, you'll be fired or cited and possibly arrested. So, bargain or not, it was the rules.
I DO NOT CARE about the background and purpose of the sheriff's involvement. Not. One. Bit. From where I sit, its just one of many revenue streams for the county, nothing more. A way to make money off the 1971 concealed carry addition to the state constitution. An increase of knowledge is not going to make it right (even if its legal), or make me care anymore, which is currently zero.
“This legislation prohibits guns in classrooms, dorms, and administrative buildings on college campuses. Additionally, this legislation gives bar owners the authority to prohibit guns in their establishments. Following my threat of a veto, we worked closely with law enforcement officials across the state so that changes were made to the original legislation. This ensured that permitting is still required for a concealed carry permit and is implemented at the local level.” – Governor Pat McCrory
And that statement from the "first citizen" of NC, makes me not care. It flies in the face of the hopeful goal of constitutional carry for all US citizens, which, IMO, is what the second amendment is about. The whole NCCHP process flies ("training", money to government, mental health background check, federal government involvement checks of varying degree <correct me about this whole process, I've never studied it to any degree, I just read what my reapplication paperwork said awhile back>) in the face of moving towards constitutional carry.
Now, maybe I've been under a rock for a bit. But CC'g? I've never seen that abbreviation used.
and those CC'g are allowed to OC in places those CC'g cant, LE & correction facility, offices of state or federal government, and local municipality's identified recreation facilities.
This bit makes it seem that, to me now, that you can carry openly in law enforcement land. I can't speak for sheriff offices or police departments or even wherever the state troopers and ale agents commiserate, but prisons? Nope. No carry in prisons/correctional facilities. Not even by cops/deputies/troopers, under standard circumstances.
And when I last checked, "restaurant carry" when it was written and passed, did NOT apply to open carriers. So, why don't you cite where you've seen it so?
(G.S. 14-269.3(b)(5)) seems certainly to apply only to concealers.
At my last recollection, H937, in 2013, the last firearms "omnibus" bill, really only dealt mainly with concealing permittees, not open carrying patriots.