I talked with one of my reps recently, and it looks like campus carry is on the horizon.
I was told that too quite a while ago. And they dropped the issue like a hot potato. Hopefully next time they'll see through to it.
I wonder if it does pass if any of the colleges that don't have actual police will arm their security/public safety officers. I have an acquaintance who works for a college public safety department and they are unarmed.
As crazy as it is to not allow adult students to carry, it's just as crazy to not allow the staff who is in charge of safety not to. They tell students they don't need to be armed because there is a public safety force, and then the public safety force is unarmed? That's like not allowing a fire fighter to have water or an extinguisher.
No armed students, no armed staff, no armed security. Sounds like when a real bad guy shows up (who will be armed, duh) the administration of these schools would prefer everyone to end up dead. WTF is wrong with the way the elitist college types think? It's sick!
"Never call an unarmed 'security' guard a security guard." - Lt Col Dave Grossman
I was told that too quite a while ago. And they dropped the issue like a hot potato. Hopefully next time they'll see through to it.
I wonder if it does pass if any of the colleges that don't have actual police will arm their security/public safety officers. I have an acquaintance who works for a college public safety department and they are unarmed.
As crazy as it is to not allow adult students to carry, it's just as crazy to not allow the staff who is in charge of safety not to. They tell students they don't need to be armed because there is a public safety force, and then the public safety force is unarmed? That's like not allowing a fire fighter to have water or an extinguisher.
No armed students, no armed staff, no armed security. Sounds like when a real bad guy shows up (who will be armed, duh) the administration of these schools would prefer everyone to end up dead. WTF is wrong with the way the elitist college types think? It's sick!
I had the opportunity to present this topic in an advanced public speaking course I was taking several years ago during my time at UW Oshkosh. There was a current rash of muggings occurring around the campus over the course of a couple years and one was fairly violent against a female student. As a side note, muggings have occurred routinely on campus again since I was there. This time its been by two or three degenerates at a time, but I digress...
I received a C- on the presentation, though not for lack of effort or not following the project rubric. In fact, I consulted with the instructor and she informed me that I was nearly flawless in content presentation, diction and remembering the audience. She did however inform me that she did not like the topic I chose, and that talk of guns in a school of any kind is unacceptable. Therefore I received a low grade based on the instructors rabid political and ideological beliefs, not based off of my performance and presentation of the content. Apparently its a better choice to keep students defenseless, stupid and scared than armed and/or protected by a legally carried firearm.
In other words, the minute a rational approach is advanced to reasonable carry on campus, the anti's immediately shut it down regardless of validity. I am simply glad that I am no longer giving my money to the UW system and hope to never again do so in the future...
I just had a quick question about carrying firearms on and inside buildings on a college campus here in our great state of Wisconsin. At a local state college campus, I have noticed that they do not have their building legally posted with no firearms signs on every door. Now, correct me if I am wrong, but unless they have every entrance posted, it would be legal to carry there?
Per others posts of the actual state statute, I believe one could carry into any university building that did not have the entrance posted. There are however other things to consider:
1. video surveillance: If they have video of you entering the building multiple times via a posted entrance, then you loose the ability to claim you didn't know.
If I entered the building, through an unposted entrance, they most likely could only ask me to leave. "Refusal" to leave could be considered trespassing.
2. Behavior policy: For a students there are behavioral policies that students agree to when they attend the college. They will claim your exercise of self defense rights violates the policy. Could you sue and win? Maybe. Do you want you college career ruined and not be able to continue going to school? Probably not.
The left wing controlled colleges are becoming less tolerant by the hour.