motoxmann
Regular Member
applied back in february 2012, 6 weeks later received a denial letter for incorrect info on my app. that was my fault, I filled the app out to the best of my knowledge but some of it did end up being incorrect. honest mistake, I didn't argue it. spoke to a few people at middletown PD who said I could reapply once everything is squared away
September 18th 2012: had my interview with Officer Bill Warner to reapply; submitted app, fingerprints taken, the norm. Bill Warner even went the extra mile helping me determine the exact correct info to include on my app this time around to ensure it goes through well. he definitely did not need to do that, and I highly appreciate that he did.
November 7th: left a voicemail with a captain inquiring about my PP
November 8th: left a voicemail with a different captain inquiring about my PP
November 9th 2pm: I receive a call from female Detective Smith (I specify female because there is also a male det smith). she tells me she is finishing up the followup process of my application but can't get ahold of my manager, that it goes straight to voicemail and a name is not stated, simply that it states a different number to call instead. Det Smith did not specify if she tried calling the other phone number. I informed her that manager is very difficult to get ahold of, and gave her the name and phone number of another one of my managers who almost always answers. I spoke with that manager an hour later and she confirmed she spoke with Detective Smith.
November 13th: I called Detective Smith to inquire on the progress of my application. she informed me my manager had great things to say about me, but a new issue has arisen: the fact that I have never met any of my managers face to face is causing some confusion on the PD's behalf, further delaying the approval of my app. I did not think to ask for the date they received my national background check at this time. Det Smith told me she didn't know what to do at that point, and would try passing it on to her captain to figure it out, and said she would call me back later that afternoon.
a few hours later I thought about a manager I used to have who no longer works for my company though, but whom I have met in person many many times. contacted her to ask if I can give Middletown PD her contact info to inquire about me, she was all for it. I called Detective Smith back, she answered right away, I gave her the contact info for my previous manager and told her she no longer works for the company as of 8 months ago or so, but that we have met face to face many times. she took the info and said she would contact her, and that she will call me back later in the afternoon. again, I forgot to ask for the date of when they received my national background check. called my old manager back in the evening, she said she never got any calls.
I never got a call back.
November 14th: 11am called Det Smith, no answer, left voicemail. noon called det smith, no answer. 2pm called records department asking if they could provide me with the date my BG check was received, she was very polite but informed me she doesnt have access to that info if the app has not been approved or denied yet, that I would need to speek to det smith or officer bill warner. immediately called det smith again, again no answer. called the captain, left a voicemail inquiring on the progress of my app and asking for the date my BG check was received. called detective smith again at 3pm and 4pm, both times as expected, no answer, and never a return call from the original voicemail either, and never a return call from the captain. spoke with my old manager at 3pm who again said she never received any calls.
there is no reason why I should not have received my permit by now. there is also no reason why they shouldnt at least give me the date they received my BG check. I did not ask each time I had the Det on the phone, but now that I have been calling noone is answering, and I'm mentioning the request for the date in my voicemails, and noone will call me back.
without the date, I don't know exactly how long it's been of course. I definitely assume they've had my BG check for more than a week though. and as of today it has been 8 weeks and 1 day total elapsed time.
does anyone have ties with Middletown PD that can get this ball shoved'a'rollin?
any advice what I should do at this point?
should I keep attempting to call Detective Smith again tomorrow? or do you know which Captain I should try to get ahold of? should I try contacting the chief of police directly?
edit: I know I didn't have to, but when I applied back in february I did provide 3 reference letters, and they still had those on file for when I reapplied in september. also back in march or so I had a meeting with a detective about a funky complaint filed against me, and the detective told me he had spoken with the complainers BF who was actually the one I was interacting with the entire time of that issue and he stated repeatedly I was very calm and polite throughout it all, had nothing bad to say about me whatsoever, and the detective complimented me on how I handled that funky situation. he was aware I was waiting on my PP at that time, and this was all included in my PP stuff, and still is.
so the question of reference shows nothing but positive things about me all over the place, and I'd think should be more than enough to determine suitability, as well as my two interviews with Officer Bill Warner going as well as they did.
September 18th 2012: had my interview with Officer Bill Warner to reapply; submitted app, fingerprints taken, the norm. Bill Warner even went the extra mile helping me determine the exact correct info to include on my app this time around to ensure it goes through well. he definitely did not need to do that, and I highly appreciate that he did.
November 7th: left a voicemail with a captain inquiring about my PP
November 8th: left a voicemail with a different captain inquiring about my PP
November 9th 2pm: I receive a call from female Detective Smith (I specify female because there is also a male det smith). she tells me she is finishing up the followup process of my application but can't get ahold of my manager, that it goes straight to voicemail and a name is not stated, simply that it states a different number to call instead. Det Smith did not specify if she tried calling the other phone number. I informed her that manager is very difficult to get ahold of, and gave her the name and phone number of another one of my managers who almost always answers. I spoke with that manager an hour later and she confirmed she spoke with Detective Smith.
November 13th: I called Detective Smith to inquire on the progress of my application. she informed me my manager had great things to say about me, but a new issue has arisen: the fact that I have never met any of my managers face to face is causing some confusion on the PD's behalf, further delaying the approval of my app. I did not think to ask for the date they received my national background check at this time. Det Smith told me she didn't know what to do at that point, and would try passing it on to her captain to figure it out, and said she would call me back later that afternoon.
a few hours later I thought about a manager I used to have who no longer works for my company though, but whom I have met in person many many times. contacted her to ask if I can give Middletown PD her contact info to inquire about me, she was all for it. I called Detective Smith back, she answered right away, I gave her the contact info for my previous manager and told her she no longer works for the company as of 8 months ago or so, but that we have met face to face many times. she took the info and said she would contact her, and that she will call me back later in the afternoon. again, I forgot to ask for the date of when they received my national background check. called my old manager back in the evening, she said she never got any calls.
I never got a call back.
November 14th: 11am called Det Smith, no answer, left voicemail. noon called det smith, no answer. 2pm called records department asking if they could provide me with the date my BG check was received, she was very polite but informed me she doesnt have access to that info if the app has not been approved or denied yet, that I would need to speek to det smith or officer bill warner. immediately called det smith again, again no answer. called the captain, left a voicemail inquiring on the progress of my app and asking for the date my BG check was received. called detective smith again at 3pm and 4pm, both times as expected, no answer, and never a return call from the original voicemail either, and never a return call from the captain. spoke with my old manager at 3pm who again said she never received any calls.
there is no reason why I should not have received my permit by now. there is also no reason why they shouldnt at least give me the date they received my BG check. I did not ask each time I had the Det on the phone, but now that I have been calling noone is answering, and I'm mentioning the request for the date in my voicemails, and noone will call me back.
without the date, I don't know exactly how long it's been of course. I definitely assume they've had my BG check for more than a week though. and as of today it has been 8 weeks and 1 day total elapsed time.
does anyone have ties with Middletown PD that can get this ball shoved'a'rollin?
any advice what I should do at this point?
should I keep attempting to call Detective Smith again tomorrow? or do you know which Captain I should try to get ahold of? should I try contacting the chief of police directly?
edit: I know I didn't have to, but when I applied back in february I did provide 3 reference letters, and they still had those on file for when I reapplied in september. also back in march or so I had a meeting with a detective about a funky complaint filed against me, and the detective told me he had spoken with the complainers BF who was actually the one I was interacting with the entire time of that issue and he stated repeatedly I was very calm and polite throughout it all, had nothing bad to say about me whatsoever, and the detective complimented me on how I handled that funky situation. he was aware I was waiting on my PP at that time, and this was all included in my PP stuff, and still is.
so the question of reference shows nothing but positive things about me all over the place, and I'd think should be more than enough to determine suitability, as well as my two interviews with Officer Bill Warner going as well as they did.
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