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New DNR rules UPDATED 4/6/16
Nik Clark needs our help. We need to call our DNA and I suggest our legislators. DNR is prohibiting carry in Campgrounds, picnic areas etc...
Greetings in freedom.
Rarely a day goes by that government bureaucrats aren't out making more rules with little-to-no concern for law-abiding citizens right to carry Wisconsin.
Within the last few weeks, the DNR has proposed new rules that deal with state-owned shooting ranges as well as campgrounds, campsites, picnic areas, and the area surrounding state campgrounds. For the entire list of proposed rules see: http://dnr.wi.gov/About/NRB/2016/Apr/04-16-3B1.pdf
There is a very troublesome rule proposed that bans lawful carry (open carry or concealed carry) at state campgrounds, campsites, picnic areas and within 100 yards of state campgrounds.
Here is the proposed rule highlighted:
http://www.wisconsincarry.org/media/14195/campground___picnic_area_ban.jpg
I spoke to multiple people at the DNR last week who assured me their INTENTION is not to prohibit people who are carrying for self-defense from possessing/carrying in these locations. I was told the "enforcement policy" was not to cite/ticket people lawfully carrying for self-defense, not hunting. THE PROBLEM IS ENFORCEMENT POLICY can change at any time on a whim and THE RULE BANNING CARRY IN AND AROUND STATE CAMPGROUNDS AND PICNIC AREAS IS PUBLISHED.
Wherever these rules are published and posted, thousands of lawful carriers who carry for self-defense will see the rule that says they are prohibited from carrying in and around state campgrounds and picnic areas and be misled into believing they can't exercise their right to carry there.
We are being told "take our word for it" that DNR wardens won't ticket lawful concealed/open carriers. There are state statutes that CONFLICT with this rule. Unfortunately, most people who go to use a state campground or picnic area, aren't legal/legislative experts with citations of state statutes handy to defend themselves against a published rule that is actually not allowed per state statutes.
WHY IS THE DNR PUBLISHING A RULE THAT THEY SAY THEY WON'T ENFORCE? WHY IS THE DNR PUBLISHING A RULE THAT CONFLICTS WITH STATE LAW AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY?????
JUST THE PUBLICATION of this rule will chill the right to carry of thousands of Wisconsin concealed carry license holders who want to go camping and picnicking in state owned areas but will see the rule and think they can't.
The Natural Resources Board meets April 13th to approve the proposed rules. The Natural Resources board CAN MAKE CHANGES to the proposed rules. Wisconsin Carry's attorneys have advised that if the proposed rule was changed to only prohibit DISCHARGE of a firearm (with an exception for guns discharged lawfully for self-defense) and not restrict possession, it would be acceptable.
How can you let the DNR know you disapprove of this misleading "ban" on lawful carry? You can call the DNR agency contact person:
Kathryn Fitzgerald at 608-267-2764.
Tell Kathryn you disapprove of the proposed rule that bans lawful carry in and around state campgrounds, campsites, and picnic areas. Tell her a rule that conflicts with state law will confuse citizens and discourage them from their lawful right to carry.
SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS by EMAIL, MAIL, or Fax TO:
Kathryn Fitzgerald
Dept. of Natural Resources
Bureau of Facilities and Lands
PO Box 7921
Madison, WI 53707
Phone: 608-267-2764
Fax: 608-267-2750
EMAIL: kathryn.fitzgerald@wisconsin.gov
Please take the time to email, call, or write. Ask the Natural Resources board to reject the rule banning possession of firearms in and around state campgrounds and campsites. Law-abiding citizens deserve the right to carry for self-defense when they go camping or hiking in and around campsites and picnic areas.
Carry On,
Nik Clark
Chairman/President - Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
nik@wisconsincarry.org
Nik Clark needs our help. We need to call our DNA and I suggest our legislators. DNR is prohibiting carry in Campgrounds, picnic areas etc...
Greetings in freedom.
Rarely a day goes by that government bureaucrats aren't out making more rules with little-to-no concern for law-abiding citizens right to carry Wisconsin.
Within the last few weeks, the DNR has proposed new rules that deal with state-owned shooting ranges as well as campgrounds, campsites, picnic areas, and the area surrounding state campgrounds. For the entire list of proposed rules see: http://dnr.wi.gov/About/NRB/2016/Apr/04-16-3B1.pdf
There is a very troublesome rule proposed that bans lawful carry (open carry or concealed carry) at state campgrounds, campsites, picnic areas and within 100 yards of state campgrounds.
Here is the proposed rule highlighted:
http://www.wisconsincarry.org/media/14195/campground___picnic_area_ban.jpg
I spoke to multiple people at the DNR last week who assured me their INTENTION is not to prohibit people who are carrying for self-defense from possessing/carrying in these locations. I was told the "enforcement policy" was not to cite/ticket people lawfully carrying for self-defense, not hunting. THE PROBLEM IS ENFORCEMENT POLICY can change at any time on a whim and THE RULE BANNING CARRY IN AND AROUND STATE CAMPGROUNDS AND PICNIC AREAS IS PUBLISHED.
Wherever these rules are published and posted, thousands of lawful carriers who carry for self-defense will see the rule that says they are prohibited from carrying in and around state campgrounds and picnic areas and be misled into believing they can't exercise their right to carry there.
We are being told "take our word for it" that DNR wardens won't ticket lawful concealed/open carriers. There are state statutes that CONFLICT with this rule. Unfortunately, most people who go to use a state campground or picnic area, aren't legal/legislative experts with citations of state statutes handy to defend themselves against a published rule that is actually not allowed per state statutes.
WHY IS THE DNR PUBLISHING A RULE THAT THEY SAY THEY WON'T ENFORCE? WHY IS THE DNR PUBLISHING A RULE THAT CONFLICTS WITH STATE LAW AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY?????
JUST THE PUBLICATION of this rule will chill the right to carry of thousands of Wisconsin concealed carry license holders who want to go camping and picnicking in state owned areas but will see the rule and think they can't.
The Natural Resources Board meets April 13th to approve the proposed rules. The Natural Resources board CAN MAKE CHANGES to the proposed rules. Wisconsin Carry's attorneys have advised that if the proposed rule was changed to only prohibit DISCHARGE of a firearm (with an exception for guns discharged lawfully for self-defense) and not restrict possession, it would be acceptable.
How can you let the DNR know you disapprove of this misleading "ban" on lawful carry? You can call the DNR agency contact person:
Kathryn Fitzgerald at 608-267-2764.
Tell Kathryn you disapprove of the proposed rule that bans lawful carry in and around state campgrounds, campsites, and picnic areas. Tell her a rule that conflicts with state law will confuse citizens and discourage them from their lawful right to carry.
SUBMIT WRITTEN COMMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS by EMAIL, MAIL, or Fax TO:
Kathryn Fitzgerald
Dept. of Natural Resources
Bureau of Facilities and Lands
PO Box 7921
Madison, WI 53707
Phone: 608-267-2764
Fax: 608-267-2750
EMAIL: kathryn.fitzgerald@wisconsin.gov
Please take the time to email, call, or write. Ask the Natural Resources board to reject the rule banning possession of firearms in and around state campgrounds and campsites. Law-abiding citizens deserve the right to carry for self-defense when they go camping or hiking in and around campsites and picnic areas.
Carry On,
Nik Clark
Chairman/President - Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
nik@wisconsincarry.org
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