New Glock 42 POS?

[Johnbo]

It was an article in the Anderson city SC newspaper a couple years ago before I got into oc. Remember reading it during my lunch break and remember mentioning it to someone at the store I was sitting at. Can not find it now though . Something about the local sheriffs suspected that the couple of handguns they had "blow up" was caused by inmates improperly loading powder in the casings. Odd. Maybe was a good ol boy thing at the time.

 

[WalkingWolf]

It was an article in the Anderson city SC newspaper a couple years ago before I got into oc. Remember reading it during my lunch break and remember mentioning it to someone at the store I was sitting at. Can not find it now though . Something about the local sheriffs suspected that the couple of handguns they had "blow up" was caused by inmates improperly loading powder in the casings. Odd. Maybe was a good ol boy thing at the time.

This is just a opinion but I suspect most of the kabooms are a result of bullet setback on a unsupported chamber. This is a problem with some LEOs as they think they have to load and unload everyday, and some do it with the same round. I highly doubt it has to do with lead ammo. If it does that would indicate a poor design on the supposed perfect gun.

The thing is IraqVeteran tried everything to blow up a C9 HP, and literally had to plug the barrel before he could get it to blow up. He loaded double, and even tripple loads into the gun, and the gun took it, they drove a truck over the gun, and the gun took it. I wouldn't even dare to try that with a Glock. I will look but I read a report of a LEO killed when one of the pins broke on his Glock when he tried to return fire when he was fired upon.

I don't want to beat up on Glocks, they are for the most part good guns. But some people are off their rocker in thinking they are the gun to end all other guns. I screw with these people for the fun of it, until I get bored. Remingtons have been manufactured for over hundred years and AFAIK I have never heard of a news report of a Remy blowing up.

 

[Kopis]

Kopis, to be honest I have to say I am surprised with the problems with the 42, I am sure they will make them right. But paying that much money for a gun that has to be sent back would be depressing. A Glock forum member was selling his almost immediately after buying it. I tried to convince him to try breaking it in, or sending back, he was PO'd, and sold it, shame I couldn't get to him before someone else did. I would have sent it back to Glock after getting it.

To be fair I think most of the 42's problems are just break in. I told him to load the mags, lock the slide back, and leave it for a few days to a couple weeks.

yeah, i think you're right on both counts. GLOCK will make it right and the G42 is *hopefully* a test bed for a 9mm single stack. It's funny that i have a few kimbers and they all have break in recommendations plus my compact is finiky on ammo and no one really cares. My new Pro is running flawlesssly though. Anyway, people are happy to stomach a break in on 1911s it seems but wont stand for it on polymers it seems.

 

[Primus]

Just saw one of these in person got to handle it. Actually seems pretty nice. New meaning to "baby glock". Didn't get to shoot it but will update if/when I get to.

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[WalkingWolf]

I can't see spending the money on it, considering there are several companies that are building baby Glock clones before Glock. And they are considerably less money, though most have the same finicky break in period just like the 42.

I was considering getting a DB9 or a Kahr just because. But then I took my PA-63 to the range and clocked it. Grouping out of a box of ammo could be covered with one hand, 1052 average FPS with a 95 grain HP. The weight difference between the Glock and the PA IMO is not worth it. And I only paid $59 for the PA a couple decades back.

PA-63 weight unloaded 595 grams.

Glock 42 weight unloaded 390 grams.

That is only 7 ounces difference, hell most people carry much more than 7 ounces around their waist. But then if that is the only consideration the Ruger LCP whips the snot out of Glock in being trimmer.

 

[Grapeshot]

I can't see spending the money on it, considering there are several companies that are building baby Glock clones before Glock. And they are considerably less money, though most have the same finicky break in period just like the 42.

I was considering getting a DB9 or a Kahr just because. But then I took my PA-63 to the range and clocked it. Grouping out of a box of ammo could be covered with one hand, 1052 average FPS with a 95 grain HP. The weight difference between the Glock and the PA IMO is not worth it. And I only paid $59 for the PA a couple decades back.

PA-63 weight unloaded 595 grams.

Glock 42 weight unloaded 390 grams.

That is only 7 ounces difference, hell most people carry much more than 7 ounces around their waist. But then if that is the only consideration the Ruger LCP whips the snot out of Glock in being trimmer.

Indeed, size/weight doesn't mean much, but what you do with it does.

I don't buy into the Glockenspiel, but Octoberfest used to be a favorite season.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...un-salute-marks-end-annual-beer-festival.html

 

[Primus]

1. I like the over the shoulder point it in the dudes fave behind you.

2. Do they OC that thing after the parade?



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[Firearms Iinstuctor]

1. I like the over the shoulder point it in the dudes fave behind you.

2. Do they OC that thing after the parade?



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Heck of a open carry gun no one well miss seeing it might weigh the pants down a bit.

 

[HPmatt]

I like my M&P shield but it is a little too thin. Recently have changed to my Walther PPQ for CC. I like the larger frame and a larger magazine capacity.

 

[Primus]

Heck of a open carry gun no one well miss seeing it might weigh the pants down a bit.

It looks like a many blunderbuss. That would be awesome. Definitely make reloads cheaper.

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[Gallowmere]

yeah, i think you're right on both counts. GLOCK will make it right and the G42 is *hopefully* a test bed for a 9mm single stack. It's funny that i have a few kimbers and they all have break in recommendations plus my compact is finiky on ammo and no one really cares. My new Pro is running flawlesssly though. Anyway, people are happy to stomach a break in on 1911s it seems but wont stand for it on polymers it seems.

What is this 1911 break-in you speak of? My Ruger is only a month or so old, and has already eaten every single bullet I've fed it (50 Federal American Eagle, 25 Hornady Critical Defense, 25 Golden Sabre, over 200 Tula), without even a hiccup.

 

[Grapeshot]

It looks like a many blunderbuss. That would be awesome. Definitely make reloads cheaper.

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Don't think I'd be apt to carry many reloads.

 

[solus]

Indeed, size/weight doesn't mean much, but what you do with it does.

I don't buy into the Glockenspiel, but Octoberfest used to be a favorite season.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...un-salute-marks-end-annual-beer-festival.html

Sie wissen, ich drink ein Paulaner Oktoberfest Märzen war ursprünglich das Typische wenn sie kaufen?

cheers

ipse

 

[MAC702]

What is this 1911 break-in you speak of? My Ruger is only a month or so old, and has already eaten every single bullet I've fed it (50 Federal American Eagle, 25 Hornady Critical Defense, 25 Golden Sabre, over 200 Tula), without even a hiccup.

Well, a Ruger is not as tight as a Kimber, which was being discussed in the previous post.

This is not a bad thing. It's just a thing.

The Kimber is probably a fair bit more accurate, but may need more (some) break-in for reliability.

There is nothing wrong with a Ruger for a sidearm. I recommend them often, including to a very good friend who bought one and carries it.

But you won't see it do what a Kimber, or one of the even better brands, can do at 40+ yards.

 

[WalkingWolf]

Getting back to the Glock 42, I have seen several being sold for $100 over the retail price. That is what happens though when people just gotta have it. Sucks I did not get to the guy who wanted to dump his first.

 

[Mas49.56]

OP never just drop a round into a Glocks chamber, always strip one from a mag. Same goes for a M14 clone too. Just a FYI.

 

[WalkingWolf]

OP never just drop a round into a Glocks chamber, always strip one from a mag. Same goes for a M14 clone too. Just a FYI.

The statements in the OP are not mine, they belong to some Glockites from the Glock forum. A round should never be dropped in the chamber of any semi auto, it can damage the extractor. Unless it is a Star Modelo Super, or similar gun with a take down. They can be fed one round in the chamber while field stripped and assembled with the round in the barrel safely.

Glocks even though they have a take down cannot, because the gun has to be cocked after assembly, which would eject the round.

 

[MAC702]

OP never just drop a round into a Glocks chamber, always strip one from a mag. Same goes for a M14 clone too. Just a FYI.

The M1 and M14 is for a different reason. They are designed with sufficient recoil spring power to overcome the losses from stripping a round out of a magazine and feeding it. When you bypass this and just let the bolt fly home on a round that is already in the chamber, you greatly increase the risk of a slam-fire, as the floating firing pin will have much more momentum when the bolt closes. When you single load them directly into the chamber without using the magazine, it is best to bring to bolt to about halfway or so before letting it go.

The M1/M14 extractor is already designed to snap over a rim, either way. There is no other way to get it in there.

 

[Kopis]

Just saw one of these in person got to handle it. Actually seems pretty nice. New meaning to "baby glock". Didn't get to shoot it but will update if/when I get to.

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yes, i handled one too. I mean it's ok but not worth the $550 price with tax. (at least to me and im a glock fan boy)

 

[WalkingWolf]

yes, i handled one too. I mean it's ok but not worth the $550 price with tax. (at least to me and im a glock fan boy)

Affordable does not come to mind when discussing retail sales of Glocks. Unless you are on their blue label list. Basicly the general public pays for others Glocks. I believe a blue label Glock is under 400 bucks. I still would not buy it, there are better sub compacts out there for much less.

IMO the S&W M&P Shield is a far better value.