OC in the park and contacted by SPD

[Lammo]

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diesel556 wrote:

Lammo wrote:

Devil's advocate for half a second. Maybe this officer asked if you had a CPL to eliminate the possibility that you were unlawfully in possession of the pistol.

[SNIP]

Unless that officer has an articulable suspicion that you are a prohibited person, they cannot demand to see your CPL.

OC, does not provide an articulable suspicion.

My understanding of the episode from the OP was that the officer"asked if" the OP had a CPL and took his yes for an answer - - i.e., that there was no "demand".

 

[Lammo]

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bennie1986 wrote:

Lammo wrote:

bennie1986 wrote:

I went to the same park with my wife and son today that I was at when I got the ticket for carrying.

SNIP

SNIP

PS - - which park?

Manito Park

Figures. Seems to be a lot of Californicated panty-wetting types taking over that part of town.

 

[David.Car]

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It would be fantastic if the SPD would just copy paste the county sheriff's bulletin and redistribute.

 

[diesel556]

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Lammo wrote:

My understanding of the episode from the OP was that the officer "asked if" the OP had a CPL and took his yes for an answer - - i.e., that there was no "demand".

I understand. My response was a rebuttal to your comment as "Devil's Advocate".

Are you saying that the average citizen doesn't feel even slightly compelled to respond to officer requests?

 

[sudden valley gunner]

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NavyLT wrote:

diesel556 wrote:

Lammo wrote:

My understanding of the episode from the OP was that the officer"asked if" the OP had a CPL and took his yes for an answer - - i.e., that there was no "demand".

I understand. My response was a rebuttal to your comment as "Devil's Advocate".

Are you saying that the average citizen doesn't feel even slightly compelled to respond to officer requests?

I don't. But I don't consider myself an average citizen, either!

I think average citizen's usually do feel compelled to do whatever cops ask them to, it's the way we are trained from kindergarten.

Same here.
Most "compelling" comes from fear of retribution.

 

[diesel556]

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I agree.

 

[Jeff Hayes]

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sudden valley gunner wrote:

NavyLT wrote:

diesel556 wrote:

Lammo wrote:

My understanding of the episode from the OP was that the officer"asked if" the OP had a CPL and took his yes for an answer - - i.e., that there was no "demand".

I understand. My response was a rebuttal to your comment as "Devil's Advocate".

Are you saying that the average citizen doesn't feel even slightly compelled to respond to officer requests?

I don't. But I don't consider myself an average citizen, either!

I think average citizen's usually do feel compelled to do whatever cops ask them to, it's the way we are trained from kindergarten.

Same here.
Most "compelling" comes from fear of retribution.

Same here, makes for interesting encounters, when you say then arrest me it usually stops them in their tracks or really POs them.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

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Orphan wrote:

Same here, makes for interesting encounters, when you say then arrest me it usually stops them in their tracks or really POs them.

:lol: Yep and I sure know how that goes. LOL.