kwikrnu
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Task Force 16 wrote:
I don't carry in Belle Meade except for that walk. There is no fine line in obeying their city ordinance. Either one carries their way, which is specifically stated in their ordinance, or one is carrying illegally. They need to know the ordinance if they are going to enforce the law. You can't stop me for speeding if you don't know the law regarding speed limits. There was no "baiting". I caried a handgun in the only legal way possible. I'll admit that I think open carry at times is a bit of activism. You're actively showing others,something they might not recognize as legal, is legal ,acceptable, and not as dangerous as they may have been led to believe.
There were quite a few posts on officer dot com where cops threatened to shot me for legal behavior. I thought it was funny how cops don't like legal open carry. It appears you're wishing me harm as well. In my mind the whole concept of "police safety" is flawed.
The problem with metro is that putting out a bulletin (if they did) with my name and picture is just something else to add to my list of damages. It is defamation. Watch out for this guy he drives the speed limit!
Task Force 16 wrote:
kwikrnu wrote:My response in red.I carry handguns everyday. Most of the time I open carry. Have you been doing this like the rest of us,with a handgun holstered? :shock:Have you been doing this in BelleMeade? :shock:If so, isn't that in violation of Belle Meade's city ordinance? :shock:If so, this would mean that you knew all along that Belle Meade didn't enforce that old ordinance. Most of the time I am not harrassed. It isn't in the best interest of anyone that cops trample civil rights. Let's assume the cops are ignorant of the law. Now, what law would that be? Are you talking about the old Belle Meade ordinanceforbiding the carry of a firearm, except for Army/Navy black powder revolvers that must be carried "in hand"? Why would BMPD need to know about that old ordinance if they don't enforce it? Well, ignorance is not an excuse for the average citizen. At worst these cops are knowingly violating rights. Care to cite other instances where Belle Meade PD have been violating yourrights? I mean, we haven't been hearing about OCers being harrassed in Belle Meade.I intend to make sure these cops understand that it isn't worth it to harrass someone who appears not to be breaking any law. Keep going like you are and it may be you that will be getting a lesson about not harrassing LEO for just trying to do their job. Their human, ya know, just like we are, and subject to error now and then, like we are.If they want to walk the fine line of these federal court cases and supreme court decisions they and their employers need to pay up when they cross it. And you're not walking a fine line of your own? This "crossing the line" and having to "pay up" goes both way.
The cops already know me. From what I have heard Metro nashville put a bulletin out with my name and picture. Ya see how easy it is to get a reputation?I have a problem with this because as a law abiding citizen where does government come off targeting a citizen who has committed no crime? Who was targeting who last friday evening? Wasn't it you that was baiting them?The Belle Meade cops said they knew who I was when I was stopped. Seems your reputation precedes you. :lol:
The tatic I will use next time is I will not say a word except to ask if I am being detained, am I free to go, that I do not consent to being searched, or my property seized. I will simply hand the cop my carry permit. I've grown tired of telling them the law. I am fluent Spanish speaker I may do this in Spanish. I'm under no obligation to speak to any of these cops. I only need identify myself and show my permit.
I don't carry in Belle Meade except for that walk. There is no fine line in obeying their city ordinance. Either one carries their way, which is specifically stated in their ordinance, or one is carrying illegally. They need to know the ordinance if they are going to enforce the law. You can't stop me for speeding if you don't know the law regarding speed limits. There was no "baiting". I caried a handgun in the only legal way possible. I'll admit that I think open carry at times is a bit of activism. You're actively showing others,something they might not recognize as legal, is legal ,acceptable, and not as dangerous as they may have been led to believe.
There were quite a few posts on officer dot com where cops threatened to shot me for legal behavior. I thought it was funny how cops don't like legal open carry. It appears you're wishing me harm as well. In my mind the whole concept of "police safety" is flawed.
The problem with metro is that putting out a bulletin (if they did) with my name and picture is just something else to add to my list of damages. It is defamation. Watch out for this guy he drives the speed limit!