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Taurus PT111 w/ horrible accuracy

celticredneck

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My PT 1911 also shot low. I was putting the front sight even with the top of the rear sight, then putting the front sight on the center of the target. This gave me a good group at 7 yards, but was about 4" low. Then I realized the Novak sights wee designed to put the front white dot on the target. The dot is slightly below the top of the front sight. When I lined up the 3 dots and pur the front one on the center of the target, I was no longer shooting low.
 

Eeyore

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My PT111 consistently shot low and left when I got it. I continued to shoot it for several months, assuming it was my fault and practice with the [ahem] unique trigger would help. It didn't.

Adding a Hogue Handall grip sleeve improved the accuracy somewhat and tightened the grouping, but it was still shooting low and left. My wife (a lefty) got similar results, so I decided it wasn't me, it really was the gun.

I moved the rear sight a hair to the right to solve the left issue, but it was still consistently low (front doton/covering the target). Finally, somebody on the TaurusTalk forum said that the proper sight picture for the Heinie "straight-8" sight actually requires a little gap between the top and bottom dot. So once I starting sighting such that the two dots didn't touch, I started hitting what I was aiming at.

Hope this helps.
 

Chio

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Pre mark your front sight and aim from that mark, shoot a couple of rounds---- keep marking lower on the front sight and shooting from each lower front mark until you find the lowest level mark that puts you on the bullseye, then file your front blade down to that mark, then use some JB weld mixed with the color paint you prefer to make the front blade readily visible when sighting and smoothe a nice lite coating of the painted JB weld over the blade and you oughta be in good shape for competition shooting..
I had the same problem with my G2C and it wasn't me, other people including instructors tried and we all had tight groups but hitting low.
I followed your idea with a change. I took a small file to the range and proceeded as follows: first I was sure to have the rear sight at maximum elevation and filed a little bit of the front sight and then shoot 3 rounds to see the change on impacts. I repeated the process many times until I was finally hitting center mass at proper elevation. I had to remove a lot, there is less than half of my white dot left. The handgun is now accurate and I'm happy-ish. The gun is accurate now but I didn't like to go and made a modification on a new gun. Never ever had this problem before, not even with the 2 hi-points I have somewhere in my safe, those things were accurate off the box. Disappointed with Taurus quality on this one
 

Grapeshot

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I had the same problem with my G2C and it wasn't me, other people including instructors tried and we all had tight groups but hitting low.
I followed your idea with a change. I took a small file to the range and proceeded as follows: first I was sure to have the rear sight at maximum elevation and filed a little bit of the front sight and then shoot 3 rounds to see the change on impacts. I repeated the process many times until I was finally hitting center mass at proper elevation. I had to remove a lot, there is less than half of my white dot left. The handgun is now accurate and I'm happy-ish. The gun is accurate now but I didn't like to go and made a modification on a new gun. Never ever had this problem before, not even with the 2 hi-points I have somewhere in my safe, those things were accurate off the box. Disappointed with Taurus quality on this one
Not sure why you selected to post in an over 2 year old dead thread, but if I had such a problem I would either have exchanged it for another with the FFL or sent it to the manufacturer.

You didn't solve a problem, you created one IMO.
You now have a hacked up handgun with a possible warranty invalidation.
I don't think the "lifetime" warranty covers intentional abuse/destruction of parts.
 
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Firearms Iinstuctor

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Before a lot of handguns had removable front sights filing and bending them to get them to shoot to point of aim was an still is a viable solution to get them to shoot to point of aim.

If the sights are removable buying a lower or higher front sight is most likely a better solution.

Back in the day when sending a handgun back to the manufacture was simply dropping it in a box and shipping it back.

I sent a couple back and had good luck.

Now days 2nd air cost some require going through a FFL adds costs.

I see that a GC2 cost just over 200.00 one could easily spend 50 dollars sending it back for warranty.

Not very cost effective.

That is why I avoid manufactures with less than a sterling reputation.
 
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since9

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But I have a new problem, in the process of removing the rear sight earlier the head of the screw snapped and is now completely un-usable. The sight is still attached, but loose and needs to be fixed. Taurus sells the screws, but I'll have to drill the old one out and tap a new hole, not something I'm looking forward to.
Ouch! You might consider trying to extract it, first, rather than drilling completely out and re-tapping. Check with your hardware store for the proper size drill/extractor combination. If someone used Loc-Tite red, then follow Henkel's advice.

Also, I wouldn't J-B Weld anything on a firearm. Sure, it's good stuff, but firearms are already maximum stress / minimum weight devices. This isn't a cracked carburetor from a 1967 Ford Mustang. Seek actual factory parts and bring it back to spec.
 
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