Maverick9
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If open carry is legal then who would be ordering you to cover it up???????^ well I'm not trying to conceal it though if you put a 'housing' on top and carried IWB you'd have to have a permit in most states, true.
I'm just talking about a way to get around the need for a 'cover garment' and to also have an option if someone says 'cover it up' so you can do it but not knuckle under to putting on a shirt or something.
You could even have an OWB holster, but the bottom half would be also camoflaged to look like a large iPhone cover, mating with the top, but again be very thin latex. I know they have these with flaps and snaps, but that still takes time to get to the pre-deploy position. The latex top would stay in place, but not interfere with the operation.
Just pondering...thanks for your reply!
^ well I'm not trying to conceal it though if you put a 'housing' on top and carried IWB you'd have to have a permit in most states, true.
I'm just talking about a way to get around the need for a 'cover garment' and to also have an option if someone says 'cover it up' so you can do it but not knuckle under to putting on a shirt or something.
You could even have an OWB holster, but the bottom half would be also camoflaged to look like a large iPhone cover, mating with the top, but again be very thin latex. I know they have these with flaps and snaps, but that still takes time to get to the pre-deploy position. The latex top would stay in place, but not interfere with the operation.
Just pondering...thanks for your reply!
Here, fixed it.get a hand gun camo painted, which matches the holster and your camo gear pants and shirt
something like this
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In some states hiding a gun in plain sight is considered concealed, such as a FAA revolver, and belt buckle. I would advice against any attempt without a permit to conceal by using hosing, belt buckle, or other obvious attempts to conceal.
Now wearing a black gun with a black shirt and pants in a black holster would not IMO be illegal, or any other clothing that matches the gun/holster color. But I don't OC to hide my gun, I want it seen so there is no confusion that I am not a victim.
Who would that be?Fanny pack carry? Some consider this unconcealed.
WS I hate black clothing, besides showing every dog hair it is just downright hot. I am usually in a white or light colored shirt. If there are ivory grips available for my gun, they get those in place of black or wood grips. One carry gun is high polished stainless, and another is nickel plated. Even our Glocks have bright grip tape on them, pink for the wife, and white on mine. Even a person with their head in the clouds would have a hard time not seeing that I am armed. I want criminals to know, and not miss that I am no willing victim.
Yeah, I don't really care how one dresses, or how obvious or unobvious one wants to be. The other half of the equation is the people around you. Some people claim to be able to make every CC person they meet, and then some people wouldn't notice a Civil War cannon rolling by.
I make a lot of eye contact with people. If you pass me and look at my face, you will find I'm probably already looking at you. People don't like to make eye contact with strangers, it seems to me. I also see it as an honesty issue, if you can't look me in the eye while your talking to me, I have issues with that. I'm sure there are other factors, such as self esteem, but making eye contact in a conversation is important to me. Maybe I read too much into that.
Oh my gosh!!!! You don't wear brown shoes when dressing in black. This is a major fashion faux pas. Brown shoes are not a substitution for pearls.Speaking of wearing black, my gun was seldom noticed when I was out dressed like this:
Who would that be?
Cite please.
Indeed nice try, but a fanny pack is not a flap style holster.I cannot provide a cite as I'm sure the law has since changed explicitly since then. But about 20 to 25 years ago Arizona statute had something about a gun in a visible holster wasn't concealed even if the gun wasn't visible. Think about a gun in one of the old military style flap holsters where the holster is obvious visible, but the gun is completely covered by the holster.
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I remember a few folks back then making the case that fanny packs were so commonly used as holsters that they ought to get the same treatment as the military flap holsters and be considered technically non-concealed, even though the gun wasn't visible. If I recall, the State AG issued an opinion saying essentially, "Nice try, but not quite."
Lots of good changes to Arizona law in the last 20 years that have rendered this question moot what with permit-free concealed carry now allowed. But I do remember, vaguely, the issue coming up in Arizona while I was living there doing some school work in the mid-90s.
Charles
Not if you are OCing, which is legal w/o a permit. The gun may also be in a secure (not locked) console or glove compartment.--snipped--
Also, I'm not sure I asked this, but if you are driving a car in Va and you HAVE a permit and you are OC-ing, do you have to present (if asked) the permit since you are not Conceal-carrying?
I understand that in Va, the rule is 'if carrying in or about the person you must present the permit on demand'. (it says nothing about talking about the firearm).
Indeed nice try, but a fanny pack is not a flap style holster.
Not if you are OCing, which is legal w/o a permit. The gun may also be in a secure (not locked) console or glove compartment.
"In the instance of a traffic stop, should I advise the police officer that I have a concealed handgun permit?
Virginia law does not require you to notify the officer that you have a permit. However, Section 18.2-308.01, of the Code of Virginia, requires you to be in possession of the permit whenever you are carrying a concealed handgun and to display the permit and a government-issued photo-identification upon demand by a law-enforcement officer."
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm