since9
Campaign Veteran
So Since? If heroin were to become legal tomorrow are you going to run out and buy some?
Nope.
And the laws we have now don't stop people who want to use it from using it.
Nothing will stop it. The laws we have do curb it. As seen on the news last night, the bigger problem these days are pill mills, where legal medical professionals write scripts or hand out meds like candy. HUGE problem in Florida.
drug control is socialism, you are trying to force people to conform...
That has nothing to do with socialism. That has everything to do with the antithesis of anarchy.
and massive amount of death and mayhem in the streets and borders costing human lives in the violence created by prohibition.
You rather have massive amount of death and mayhem in living rooms, bedrooms, on the highways and in the ER because dangerous drugs were easy to obtain? They controlled because they're dangerous. If you want the truth about how and why they're dangerous, ask a recovering (they're always in recovery) heroin addict.
Even if everything you say is absolutely true, I would rather live with the problem of dealing with free people than not live in a free society.
The difference between guns and drugs is that those of us who exercise our 2A rights aren't creating danger and mayhem in the streets.
Every year gravity kills many people, more people in my job construction die from it than LEO's in their job, should we outlaw gravity?
Knock yourself out, particularly if you seem to enjoy using logical fallacy.
No, because doing so would not negate the effects of the natural law of gravity, and it will continue to hurt people.
Incorrect. The correct answer is "no, because one cannot outlaw gravity." More appropriately, however, one can mitigate it's effects. Children with hemophilia often were padded clothing designed to minimize bruising and take k-factor to improve clotting. Businesses working with handicapped and the elderly use ramps and handrails. When my Mom rolls out of the bed in the morning, it's onto a 1' thick gymnastics safety pad... Just kidding about the last. My point remains: You can't repeal the law of gravity, but you can mitigate it's effects. Corrollary: You can't change people with genetic or psychological addictions, but you can help them avoid becoming hooked in the first place.
Outlawing drugs (and many other ridiculous laws) does not negate peoples natural desire to choose what they want to do for themselves.
(sigh), you have apparently not had much experience with addicts. I have. The vast majority of the ones who're in recovery will tell you over and over that they wish they'd never taken that first drink, hit, line, or needle. Most did so because it was available.
Let's learn to live with the dangers of being free without trying to control every little thing someone does.
I wish there were tests for addictiveness. If you're not an addictive person, then you're given carte blanch access to drugs, provided:
1. You agree to never drive while under the immediate or extended influence of any substance. Should you violate that, your license will be revoked. Forever.
2. You waive your right to normal insurance rates and accept rates more appropriate for the seriously increased risks accuaries have calculated for drug users. This includes both vehicle and medical. Should you not wish you pay additional rates, your coverage will be reduced accordingly. Should you decline coverage, you will also decline free medical care paid for by taxpayers.
Sound ok to you? No? Then quit trying to have your druggie-filled cake and eat it too, particularly on our dime.
Now this doesn't mean you don't have recourse if damaged by someone who abuses mind altering substances. That's what the courts are for.
Courts cannot replace loved ones damaged or lost at the hands of those who used or abused alcohol and drugs. Even tertiary effects of drug use are serious and tear families apart.