Sonora Rebel
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Usually... the need for use of deadly force is not a planned event. It will occur suddenly... often violently. The perp will have the element of surprise. You don't have time to re-hash the vaguaries of 'law' in yer head. You will react... one way or the other, to the dynamic of the event. The event may happen in your presence... or you may happen upon the event in progress. The one option you will not have is pursuit. That's up to the LEO's. Lets say... if two guys get at it in a fist fight... 'n there's no weapon displayed.... Don't draw yours and 'break it up'... unless it's life threatening. As in... some thug is in process of stomping someone... or strangling them. If any weapon is brandished... and the circumstances seem imminent that the 'actor' will use that weapon... then deadly force would be an appropriate response. You'll never know... until you KNOW! I live in a rather remote area... with 5 Deputies covering 155 sq. miles per shift. LEO response time is an issue... and the Sheriff's Dept.is very much aware ofit. Perhaps... I may have more latitude than some because of that. The AZ Constitution reads; RTK&BA... In defense of themseves or the state. The 'state'... would include 'others'... not just the government or territory. In many ways... this is still the 'wild' part of the old wild west. That said... anyone who OC's may have thwarted a criminal activity just by their presence... if noticed by an individual or 'group' bent on some criminal activity. We have no way to know. Criminals don't know what John Q will do... and therein' lies the element of fear and doubt.
Usually... the need for use of deadly force is not a planned event. It will occur suddenly... often violently. The perp will have the element of surprise. You don't have time to re-hash the vaguaries of 'law' in yer head. You will react... one way or the other, to the dynamic of the event. The event may happen in your presence... or you may happen upon the event in progress. The one option you will not have is pursuit. That's up to the LEO's. Lets say... if two guys get at it in a fist fight... 'n there's no weapon displayed.... Don't draw yours and 'break it up'... unless it's life threatening. As in... some thug is in process of stomping someone... or strangling them. If any weapon is brandished... and the circumstances seem imminent that the 'actor' will use that weapon... then deadly force would be an appropriate response. You'll never know... until you KNOW! I live in a rather remote area... with 5 Deputies covering 155 sq. miles per shift. LEO response time is an issue... and the Sheriff's Dept.is very much aware ofit. Perhaps... I may have more latitude than some because of that. The AZ Constitution reads; RTK&BA... In defense of themseves or the state. The 'state'... would include 'others'... not just the government or territory. In many ways... this is still the 'wild' part of the old wild west. That said... anyone who OC's may have thwarted a criminal activity just by their presence... if noticed by an individual or 'group' bent on some criminal activity. We have no way to know. Criminals don't know what John Q will do... and therein' lies the element of fear and doubt.