nepawolf
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Nepadestroyer and myself (both OCing) went to the Cinemark on Montage mountain to see the 12:35 showing of GI Joe. We bought our tickets and went to the concession stand for drinks. After purchasing our drinks we went to enter the theater where it was being shown.
Right before entering, I was pulled aside by manager Dan Halt. He informed us that guns were not allowed there and asked if I would mind putting my gun in my car. I told him that I would mind putting it in my car and that as I was handicapped, my gun is my crutch for self defense and that I had openly carried there many times before. He said alright, that's fine. To make sure I understood his last statement, I asked if I had to put my gun in my car, to which he replied that I didn't and told us to go on in.
After sitting through all of the ads for about a half of an hour, we see Mr. Halt at the entrance with two police officers. After looking over the whole theater he spotted us and sent one of the officers over to me. The officer asked if he could talk to me on the side, to which I of course agreed to. The officer walked with me to the entrance of the theater where the other officer and the manager where standing. Officer #1 informs me that firearms are prohibited in the theater and as such I'm going to have put it in my vehicle. I told him that I was not willing to put it in my vehicle and that Mr. Halt had said that I could have the weapon in the theater in our previous discussion and restated that I had open carried there many times before. Mr. Halt interjected at that point saying that people had complained since I had talked to him and that's why he had to call the police. Officer #1 said that they have a "no firearms" sign out front and as such I have to leave if I won't put it in my car. I told them that I didn't see any sign but if I have to leave I'm going to have to get my buddy who came with me. I gesture to nepadestroyer and he comes over. While he's walking over, officer #1 tells me that he'll show me the sign. I inform the group of them that if we have to leave that we're going to need refunds. At that time the manager disappeared somewhere after saying that we'll get a refund. After he left I said to the officers that I hope we're going to get a refund for the expensive drinks we bought.
About a third of a way to the exit, the manager comes back and asks for our tickets saying that he needs them for us to get a refund. We hand him the tickets and he heads off for our refund. Officer #1 shows us the sign at the bottom of a list of prohibitions, about knee height on the far left side (Which, of course, you wouldn't see when you're looking straight up to find your movie time or when you're paying for your ticket as the counter is in the way then). Officer #1 tells us that since they have the sign they can ask us to leave and if they didn't they wouldn't be able to. He also said that Mr. Halt can't give us special permission as it is corporate policy. Mr. Halt gives us our movie ticket refund (no money back for the almost $5 drinks though) and we leave.
Before anyone says anything about the sign, I already know about it's legality. Also, at no time were we asked for ID, nor did they run the "registration" on either one of the OCed guns, nor were we searched or disarmed. The bottom line of the whole situation is that we were allowed entrance, had to talk to the manager and were given the OK, and then escorted out in front of a packed theater like criminals and were not given a full refund. If we had just wanted to go out for a large fountain soda, we could have gone to McDonalds and gotten them for $1 each and would not have been treated like criminals. Thanks to the lack of full refund, nepadestroyer doesn't have money to see the movie elsewhere as he's presently strapped for cash. Of course, I am paying for his ticket when we see it elsewhere since they didn't even see him OCing and had only noticed mine. As a note, Officer #2 (who had a white shirt on) didn't say much of anything except answer my questions about his revolver while we were walking. Smith and Wesson 38 special SS in a leather holster, by the way.
Also posted on PAFOA and to be followed by paopencarry.
Nepadestroyer and myself (both OCing) went to the Cinemark on Montage mountain to see the 12:35 showing of GI Joe. We bought our tickets and went to the concession stand for drinks. After purchasing our drinks we went to enter the theater where it was being shown.
Right before entering, I was pulled aside by manager Dan Halt. He informed us that guns were not allowed there and asked if I would mind putting my gun in my car. I told him that I would mind putting it in my car and that as I was handicapped, my gun is my crutch for self defense and that I had openly carried there many times before. He said alright, that's fine. To make sure I understood his last statement, I asked if I had to put my gun in my car, to which he replied that I didn't and told us to go on in.
After sitting through all of the ads for about a half of an hour, we see Mr. Halt at the entrance with two police officers. After looking over the whole theater he spotted us and sent one of the officers over to me. The officer asked if he could talk to me on the side, to which I of course agreed to. The officer walked with me to the entrance of the theater where the other officer and the manager where standing. Officer #1 informs me that firearms are prohibited in the theater and as such I'm going to have put it in my vehicle. I told him that I was not willing to put it in my vehicle and that Mr. Halt had said that I could have the weapon in the theater in our previous discussion and restated that I had open carried there many times before. Mr. Halt interjected at that point saying that people had complained since I had talked to him and that's why he had to call the police. Officer #1 said that they have a "no firearms" sign out front and as such I have to leave if I won't put it in my car. I told them that I didn't see any sign but if I have to leave I'm going to have to get my buddy who came with me. I gesture to nepadestroyer and he comes over. While he's walking over, officer #1 tells me that he'll show me the sign. I inform the group of them that if we have to leave that we're going to need refunds. At that time the manager disappeared somewhere after saying that we'll get a refund. After he left I said to the officers that I hope we're going to get a refund for the expensive drinks we bought.
About a third of a way to the exit, the manager comes back and asks for our tickets saying that he needs them for us to get a refund. We hand him the tickets and he heads off for our refund. Officer #1 shows us the sign at the bottom of a list of prohibitions, about knee height on the far left side (Which, of course, you wouldn't see when you're looking straight up to find your movie time or when you're paying for your ticket as the counter is in the way then). Officer #1 tells us that since they have the sign they can ask us to leave and if they didn't they wouldn't be able to. He also said that Mr. Halt can't give us special permission as it is corporate policy. Mr. Halt gives us our movie ticket refund (no money back for the almost $5 drinks though) and we leave.
Before anyone says anything about the sign, I already know about it's legality. Also, at no time were we asked for ID, nor did they run the "registration" on either one of the OCed guns, nor were we searched or disarmed. The bottom line of the whole situation is that we were allowed entrance, had to talk to the manager and were given the OK, and then escorted out in front of a packed theater like criminals and were not given a full refund. If we had just wanted to go out for a large fountain soda, we could have gone to McDonalds and gotten them for $1 each and would not have been treated like criminals. Thanks to the lack of full refund, nepadestroyer doesn't have money to see the movie elsewhere as he's presently strapped for cash. Of course, I am paying for his ticket when we see it elsewhere since they didn't even see him OCing and had only noticed mine. As a note, Officer #2 (who had a white shirt on) didn't say much of anything except answer my questions about his revolver while we were walking. Smith and Wesson 38 special SS in a leather holster, by the way.
Also posted on PAFOA and to be followed by paopencarry.