read some more about it here
read some more about it here
I don't understand why they can't treat this issue as a civil matter, give the accused a chance to face his/her accuser's, accuser's present evidences to the jury's (if any), then if the jury's of his/her peer find that the accused is " A Threat" then enforced restrictions.
If the accuser is found to use malice to accused me then, they the accuser will pay for my Attorney cost, lost wages, Mortgage, horse, a few nice HG and Honey Badgers, my 50ft Yatch, ATV's, ect.........At least there is still due process involved before taking someone right away.
There won't need to a "secret court" , LE won't have to violate their "Oath" and all parties will be on the same page.
i see this as a same tactics they use for "war on drugs" which is not becoming unfavorable so now they have to find something else to do.
I don't understand why they can't treat this issue as a civil matter, give the accused a chance to face his/her accuser's, accuser's present evidences to the jury's (if any), then if the jury's of his/her peer find that the accused is " A Threat" then enforced restrictions.
If the accuser is found to use malice to accused me then, they the accuser will pay for my Attorney cost, lost wages, Mortgage, horse, a few nice HG and Honey Badgers, my 50ft Yatch, ATV's, ect.........At least there is still due process involved before taking someone right away.
There won't need to a "secret court" , LE won't have to violate their "Oath" and all parties will be on the same page.
i see this as a same tactics they use for "war on drugs" which is not becoming unfavorable so now they have to find something else to do.
BS&P...there is no secret court at all and “due process” is afforded the individual in front of a ‘jurst’!
yes there are....you just don't know about it...it's a secret
Personally and don't see the issue at all.
Red Flag depends on fortune tellers and crystal balls.
An individual s actions cannot be predicted with any degree of certainty until that individual actually DOES OR ATTEMPTS TO commit a crime. End of story.
Red Flag laws are unconstitutional on their face and nothing but a thinly veiled confiscation scheme cooked up by anti RTKABA kooks.
As a side note I wouldn't worry about LEOs HAVING to violate their oath.
They gleefully do so multiple times an hour now. Don't see any visiting therapists over quilt at having done so.
I have been a member of the NRA for near forty years now. If it wasn't for the fact that I have been a life member for most of that time, I would've taken my money and used it for supporting several of the other Second Amendment groups, and I do.
I argued with the NRA leadership a long time ago about its direction to no avail. For instance, when it was pushing hard for government permission slips I asked them why they weren't pushing for what is now referred to as constitutional carry. I got no real answer. They didn't answer my questions directly. At that time I stopped supporting the NRA financially and sent my 2nd Amendment money to other groups who in my opinion do far greater work on our behalf. To this day I still feel they don't fully support our rights.
I don't tell people to stop their membership with the NRA as some people prefer to only be aligned with the biggest group, and that's fine. Better than nothing. If it was all there was I'd still be fully supporting them. I just think we can get more bang for our buck supporting other groups if you only can afford helping one.
Personally and don't see the issue at all.
Red Flag depends on fortune tellers and crystal balls.
An individual s actions cannot be predicted with any degree of certainty until that individual actually DOES OR ATTEMPTS TO commit a crime. End of story.
Red Flag laws are unconstitutional on their face and nothing but a thinly veiled confiscation scheme cooked up by anti RTKABA kooks.
As a side note I wouldn't worry about LEOs HAVING to violate their oath.
They gleefully do so multiple times an hour now. Don't see any visiting therapists over quilt at having done so.
Hmmm....During his testimony, he [Colorado State Attorney General Phil Weiser] nonchalantly admits this bill will be imperfect, that false accusations are just par for the course, and he oddly compares it to copyright infringement claims. I have no idea how he thinks removing copyrighted material from a website based on false claims is at all the same as confiscating an innocent person’s firearms. But apparently he does. He then goes on to make it clear, should this law pass, sheriffs and law enforcement must enforce it until it’s determined to be unconstitutional in the courts, which would be years.
Colorado AG Admits To False Claims, Lack Of Due Process As "Red Flag" ERPO Bill Heads To Senate Floor
Colorado Attorney General unintentionally tells us how bad Red Flag ERPO bill actually is. Contact your state senators today!www.rallyforourrights.com
Then have a stiff penalties (Felony) for the accusers that uses malice or revenge. Use the same scare tactic law on the opponents, just like how they use it on us. Strip their rights to see how they feel.
It's sad to see society so easily give in and throw your hands in the air and to accept something that is unjust because it's easy to do so.
Imagine if the Founders of were to have this content mindset, would we still have our Constitution today?
Sometime we just have to stop and open our eyes to actually see the BIGGER PICTURE.
The NRA’s position on emergency risk protection orders (ERPOs) has recently been mischaracterized by some who haven't taken the time to understand our position, including the anti-gun mainstream media and organizations that purport to support the Second Amendment. Many of the individuals mischaracterizing our position are using misinformation to simply attack the NRA.
Some have raised the issue of current ERPO laws in California, Oregon and other states, suggesting that the NRA supports those laws. This is false. The NRA strongly opposed these laws because they do not protect due process rights.
As states consider ERPO laws, the NRA will continue to push for the inclusion of strong due process protections.
The requirements of an ERPO process that the NRA can support should include the following: [many items, READ FOR YOURSELF AT THE LINK ABOVE!]
We will only support an ERPO process that strongly protects both Second Amendment rights and due process rights at the same time.