nshaw65
Newbie
I want to switch from CC to OC. My question is do most of you guys use a retention holster or not. If so, what level of retention do you use?
welcome...
I am not one to go rolling on the ground, running or chasing after, nor jogging with my firearm so i am quite comfortable with friction holding my SD tool in place in its, LEATHER only thank you, holster on the outside of my pants on my belt. (caveat i do have a canvas shoulder rig i wear w/o the rig strapped to my belt, while driving long distances.
now, understand the purchase of the right holster which suits your SD needs takes a lifetime to satisfy.
ipse
welcome...
I am not one to go rolling on the ground, running or chasing after, nor jogging with my firearm so i am quite comfortable with friction holding my SD tool in place in its, LEATHER only thank you, holster on the outside of my pants on my belt.
ipse
Carrying in a crowed without some sort of retention has always bothered me.
And like WalkingWolf the only retention on my OWB leather holster is a leather lace thong. I carry a 38s steel snubby in that holster. And it is my favorite. I just bought a S&W – M&P shield. I carry it in a Blackhawk serpa. The reason for this is in the summer the gun can end-up laying against my skin. Steel against the skin is not good. The shield is stainless steel and polymer.
What I don't like is even though the shield carries four more rounds it also weighs 3½ oz. more. I can feel that extra weight even though the footprint of both are about the same. I'm sure I'll get use to it.
My M&P compact weighs 9¼ oz. more than my snubby. It's like carrying an anchor. I only carry it when I think it's necessary. More rounds is more weight. The way I look at it, is if I can't deal with the situation with five rounds then three to eights rounds more means I shouldn't have been at that place at that time anyway.
There is always a compromise.
welcome...
I am not one to go rolling on the ground, running or chasing after, nor jogging with my firearm so i am quite comfortable with friction holding my SD tool in place in its, LEATHER only thank you, holster on the outside of my pants on my belt. (caveat i do have a canvas shoulder rig i wear w/o the rig strapped to my belt, while driving long distances.
now, understand the purchase of the right holster which suits your SD needs takes a lifetime to satisfy.
ipse
That's all nice but some times crap happens I seen to many handguns come out of friction holsters and hit the ground.
I a firm believer in having some type of retention besides friction..
“1.6 lb with a loaded 20-round magazine....” 20 rounds of 9mm weighs 9 oz. That would mean the pistol unloaded would weigh a tad over 1 lb. What are you carrying? My M&P shield unloaded weighs 1 lb. 6 oz. And lets not forget the weight of your holster.View attachment 12774
However, the pistol is unusually lightweight, weighing only 744 g (1.6 lb) with a loaded 20-round magazine. Polymer materials are used extensively in the pistol's design, and even the steel slide is encased in a polymer shell.
fantastic firearm!! or so i have read about!! :banana:
ipse
And we all know that without friction none of us would be here discussing this.....I a firm believer in having some type of retention besides friction..
remember, as stated numerous times, i am one who is non-confrontational so will be pushing myself and loved ones to cover as I retreat.
ipse
“1.6 lb with a loaded 20-round magazine....” 20 rounds of 9mm weighs 9 oz. That would mean the pistol unloaded would weigh a tad over 1 lb. What are you carrying? My M&P shield unloaded weighs 1 lb. 6 oz. And lets not forget the weight of your holster.
My loaded snubby with holster weighs 1 lb. 8¾ oz.
My loaded shield with holster weighs 1 lb. 12¼ oz.
What am I missing????
You are comparing apples with oranges. What you described as your carry gun must be a “FN Five-seven.” The guns the adverage person carrys usually cost no more than $500. A “FN Five-seven” costs $1,200. + and is the size of a 1911. The length of the bullet is .43” longer that a 9mm. This causes the grip to be pretty stout, making it, for many, difficult to hold and shoot.humm my full sized firearm firearm w/20 rounds each w/muzzle velocity 2.3k (give or take a smidgen)
tis not a midget eight round shield, nor a stubby with maybe five or six rounds...
quote: There is always a compromise. unquote
in my case, my firearm weighs less and has many more bangs then both of yours...that is my compromise!
that is what you are missing!!!!!
ipse
Carrying in a crowed without some sort of retention has always bothered me.
And like WalkingWolf the only retention on my OWB leather holster is a leather lace thong. I carry a 38s steel snubby in that holster. And it is my favorite. I just bought a S&W – M&P shield. I carry it in a Blackhawk serpa. The reason for this is in the summer the gun can end-up laying against my skin. Steel against the skin is not good. The shield is stainless steel and polymer.
What I don't like is even though the shield carries four more rounds it also weighs 3½ oz. more. I can feel that extra weight even though the footprint of both are about the same. I'm sure I'll get use to it.
My M&P compact weighs 9¼ oz. more than my snubby. It's like carrying an anchor. I only carry it when I think it's necessary. More rounds is more weight. The way I look at it, is if I can't deal with the situation with five rounds then three to eights rounds more means I shouldn't have been at that place at that time anyway.
There is always a compromise.
You are comparing apples with oranges. What you described as your carry gun must be a “FN Five-seven.” The guns the adverage person carrys usually cost no more than $500. A “FN Five-seven” costs $1,200. + and is the size of a 1911. The length of the bullet is .43” longer that a 9mm. This causes the grip to be pretty stout, making it, for many, difficult to hold and shoot.
I have a couple of friends that own a “FN Five-seven” and they have big hands and they don't carry it because of the guns size. Unlike my shield or snubby you ain't sticking a “FN Five-seven” in your pocket.
I'm just say'n.