Bebog
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This is not to ask whether one can carry in church as I know the law in NC to be you can, as long as not posted. The only point I want to make is what does your particular church support?
After a lot of research today concerning various Christian religious variants, of which my research had nothing at all to do with gun control, I ran across some extremely surprising information. I was mainly researching Presbyterian, Methodist, Advent Christian and Baptist. While doing so, I noticed that Presbyterian and Methodist has specific statements concerning gun control:
Presbyterian - http://www.pcusa.org/101/101-gun.htm
The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has a thirty year history of support for gun control legislation. intentionally work toward removing handguns and assault weapons from our homes and our communities.
Methodist - http://archives.umc.org/interior.asp?ptid=1&mid=937
(4) develop advocacy groups within local congregations to advocate for the eventual reduction of the availability of guns in society with a particular emphasis upon handguns, handgun ammunition, assault weapons, automatic weapons, automatic weapon conversion kits, and guns that cannot be detected by traditionally used metal detection devices. These groups can be linked to community-based, state, and national organizations working on gun and violence issues;
(5) support federal legislation to regulate the importation, manufacturing, sale, and possession of guns and ammunition by the general public. Such legislation should include provisions for the registration and licensing of gun purchasers and owners, appropriate background investigation and waiting periods prior to gun purchase, and regulation of subsequent sale;
(6) call upon all governments of the world in which there is a United Methodist presence to establish national bans on ownership by the general public of handguns, assault weapons, automatic weapon conversion kits, and weapons that cannot be detected by traditionally used metal-detection devices;
According to http://www.religionlink.com/tip_080603.php , Catholic bishops, Evangelical Lutheran and Episcopal church have all supported and encouraged gun control measures.
Baptist - I could not find a position statement on the SBC website, however there are many quotes and other media prints clearly defining the Baptist as being very gun friendly including this one from Richard Land, president of the SBC's (Southern Baptist Convention) Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission - http://sbcbaptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?id=13370 :
Our forefathers understood that a free people had to be able to defend themselves against the government which seeks to gather more and more power to itself and wants to disarm its citizenry and It is a ridiculous and dangerous argument that says the Second Amendment is referring only to the armed forces of the United States," Land said. "The Second Amendment protects the right of individuals."
:celebrate
I further called a local Baptist pastor and asked about carrying concealed in his congregation. He stated that as long as the person was legally licensed and trained he did not have a problem with it. Further stated that he has a few people (some with LEO background some without) that he has personally asked to carry while at church to further protect the parishioners. It is not widely known who they are or that they carry, it is just between him and them. He acknowledged that to refuse to accept that evil people who intend to do harm never enters a place of sanctuary is akin to burying your head in the sand and a quick news search would prove it.
I now know it is time to get back to the religion of my roots due to this and many other issues with where I currently attend. My question to you all is am I the only one that was so naive as to not realize that almost every single religious sect out there refuse to acknowledge a person's right to protect themselves with a firearm and are generally actively fighting to make sure the government takes that right away?:shock:
I won't even get into why churches choose to get involved in-depth with politics in the first place. Not only would that be waayyy off-topic but its bedtime and I would rather not retire enraged.:banghead:
This is not to ask whether one can carry in church as I know the law in NC to be you can, as long as not posted. The only point I want to make is what does your particular church support?
After a lot of research today concerning various Christian religious variants, of which my research had nothing at all to do with gun control, I ran across some extremely surprising information. I was mainly researching Presbyterian, Methodist, Advent Christian and Baptist. While doing so, I noticed that Presbyterian and Methodist has specific statements concerning gun control:
Presbyterian - http://www.pcusa.org/101/101-gun.htm
The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has a thirty year history of support for gun control legislation. intentionally work toward removing handguns and assault weapons from our homes and our communities.
Methodist - http://archives.umc.org/interior.asp?ptid=1&mid=937
(4) develop advocacy groups within local congregations to advocate for the eventual reduction of the availability of guns in society with a particular emphasis upon handguns, handgun ammunition, assault weapons, automatic weapons, automatic weapon conversion kits, and guns that cannot be detected by traditionally used metal detection devices. These groups can be linked to community-based, state, and national organizations working on gun and violence issues;
(5) support federal legislation to regulate the importation, manufacturing, sale, and possession of guns and ammunition by the general public. Such legislation should include provisions for the registration and licensing of gun purchasers and owners, appropriate background investigation and waiting periods prior to gun purchase, and regulation of subsequent sale;
(6) call upon all governments of the world in which there is a United Methodist presence to establish national bans on ownership by the general public of handguns, assault weapons, automatic weapon conversion kits, and weapons that cannot be detected by traditionally used metal-detection devices;
According to http://www.religionlink.com/tip_080603.php , Catholic bishops, Evangelical Lutheran and Episcopal church have all supported and encouraged gun control measures.
Baptist - I could not find a position statement on the SBC website, however there are many quotes and other media prints clearly defining the Baptist as being very gun friendly including this one from Richard Land, president of the SBC's (Southern Baptist Convention) Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission - http://sbcbaptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?id=13370 :
Our forefathers understood that a free people had to be able to defend themselves against the government which seeks to gather more and more power to itself and wants to disarm its citizenry and It is a ridiculous and dangerous argument that says the Second Amendment is referring only to the armed forces of the United States," Land said. "The Second Amendment protects the right of individuals."
:celebrate
I further called a local Baptist pastor and asked about carrying concealed in his congregation. He stated that as long as the person was legally licensed and trained he did not have a problem with it. Further stated that he has a few people (some with LEO background some without) that he has personally asked to carry while at church to further protect the parishioners. It is not widely known who they are or that they carry, it is just between him and them. He acknowledged that to refuse to accept that evil people who intend to do harm never enters a place of sanctuary is akin to burying your head in the sand and a quick news search would prove it.
I now know it is time to get back to the religion of my roots due to this and many other issues with where I currently attend. My question to you all is am I the only one that was so naive as to not realize that almost every single religious sect out there refuse to acknowledge a person's right to protect themselves with a firearm and are generally actively fighting to make sure the government takes that right away?:shock:
I won't even get into why churches choose to get involved in-depth with politics in the first place. Not only would that be waayyy off-topic but its bedtime and I would rather not retire enraged.:banghead: