bushwacker
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what's the chances of sb17 saving the day for non permitted carry?
0. It would have had to have had its second reading by Tuesday and this by Wednesday (procedural deadlines) and it's still in committeewhat's the chances of sb17 saving the day for non permitted carry?
The state may be ripe for constitutional/unlicensed carry in a year and half, if the open carriers in the interim are well behaved and safe. Going straight from licensed concealed only to "everyone carries in the open" is a big jump. Don't underestimate the value of fear of guns and people who like guns among legislators and voters. Let's see how things go. Based on the ability of people to be unreasonable, including some of those who count themselves as open carry advocates, I think I'm OK with starting with this small step.
Incrementalism works. That's how they infringed our rights in the first place.
To be clear, the goal of free and open carry is where we need to be headed. But the long absence of handguns in most people's daily experience means we collectively need to relearn the do's and dont's and etiquette. .
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LGOC is a non issue. Fringe of the fringe for anything except hunting and sporting activity, as intended.
LE will know exactly what is required, and they already know this only involves handguns. They can act like they don't but they know. The rule change was a simple one.
The legislature in Texas meets for half a year every other year, so it will be 18 months before anything new happens (except for the requisite lobbying.)
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LGOC is fringe around here. I have not once seen anyone who was not involved in a protest, hunting, or headed to the range or field, just walking around doing things like shopping or taking an evening walk in the city (And let's face it, the controversy over OC is entirely a city issue... even during the OC debate here, the democrats would have given in if we had excluded Dallas, Austin, Houston...)
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......... if you live in an open carry state and don't open carry then you are just helping the anti guns agenda................................... they will get use to it.
The difference is that they seek to take away the "unused", and "dangerous" whereas I am simply observing. Progressives are looking for opportunities to take away freedom in the name of safety, urbanism, and equality. The usual mantra is "all equal, but some more equal than others."
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You can tell yourself that, but when you parrot their fears, you in fact are legitimizing taking away. And that is the very reason Texas got stuck with licensed open carry, and the section to protect OCers from harassment was removed.
As I said previously, once people have exposure to these things, their parents talk about it with them, and the culture is such that people honestly talk about guns and self defense, training won't be needed. But as it stands, few people understand the issues around carry and discharge of a weapon. Give it two years. This will let people see how little trouble carriers are and how safe they are.
As it is, when people learn that I carry, the conversation starts. I always lead with why I carry and the implications of carrying that lead to the "is carrying a gun right for me" assessment. Those opportunities will come much more frequently after Jan 1
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