Aknazer
Regular Member
Yesterday I was at the Melting Pot in OKC and they had a "No Guns" sign (I noticed it as we were leaving). Has anyone talked to them about it or know what their corporate policy is?
I don't think that the OP's fingers are broke ....
I didn't say anything because it was my wife's birthday and as such I didn't feel it was right to talk to them right then. I also realized that the "No Guns, No Money" cards I had just bought I had forgot to put into my wallet. The point of the thread was to 1) let other people know, 2) to find out if anyone already had contact with them, and 3) if people had already contacted them if they knew what the policy was. No point in me barking up the tree if they have a policy like 7-11 and aren't going to change it.
Followed up with Becky today, she said they will be changing their signs to No Open Carry. It's a start, here is her reply.
Hi Justin,
We will change them to “No Open Carry.” One week after the bill passed in November, we had a customer lay a gun on the table while drinking beer. It really upset my staff. So, I think to keep them at ease, we will not remove the signs, but I will be happy to change them to “No Open Carry.”
Perhaps you can let me know…. If you are carrying a gun, are you allowed to consume alcohol?
Becky Chapman, owner
I'd suggest going to Ms Chapman with a copy of the SDA and show her the following...
TITLE 21 § 1272.1 CARRYING FIREARMS WHERE LIQUOR IS CONSUMED
A. It shall be unlawful for any person to carry or possess any weapon designated in Section 1272 of this title in any establishment where low-point beer, as defined by Section 163.2 of Title 37 of the Oklahoma Statutes, or alcoholic beverages, as defined by Section 506 of Title 37 of the Oklahoma Statutes, are consumed. This provision shall not apply to a peace officer, as defined in Section 99 of this title, or to private investigators with a firearms authorization when acting in the scope and course of employment, and shall not apply to an owner or proprietor of the establishment having a pistol, rifle, or shotgun on the premises. Provided however, a person possessing a valid handgun license pursuant to the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act may carry the concealed or unconcealed handgun into any restaurant or other establishment licensed to dispense low-point beer or alcoholic beverages where the sale of low-point beer or alcoholic beverages does not constitute the primary purpose of the business.
Provided further, nothing in this section shall be interpreted to authorize any peace officer in actual physical possession of a weapon to consume low-point beer or alcoholic beverages, except in the authorized line of duty as an undercover officer.
Nothing in this section shall be interpreted to authorize any private investigator with a firearms authorization in actual physical possession of a weapon to consume low-point beer or alcoholic beverages in any establishment where low-point beer or alcoholic beverages are consumed.
B. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be punished as provided in Section 1272.2 of this title.
This statute has nothing to do with carry at the Melting Pot, since it's not a bar. This only serves to confuse the issue.
Clearly, lying a gun on the table in a public establishment is not gonna fly. Someone who does that needs to have the cops called on them. I keep hearing these stories, but no arrests. Makes me seriously question the validity of such stories.
Followed up with Becky today, she said they will be changing their signs to No Open Carry. It's a start, here is her reply.
Hi Justin,
We will change them to “No Open Carry.” One week after the bill passed in November, we had a customer lay a gun on the table while drinking beer. It really upset my staff. So, I think to keep them at ease, we will not remove the signs, but I will be happy to change them to “No Open Carry.”
Perhaps you can let me know…. If you are carrying a gun, are you allowed to consume alcohol?
Becky Chapman, owner
You can go out to say, hideaway, order some fried mushrooms and have a beer with it while carrying. Nothing about that is illegal. It states that Being intoxicated while carrying is illegal. Now you need to know how much beer does it take to intoxicate me verses you or him. That's the grey area, but legally, your server is not allowed to serve you alcohol to the point of intoxication.
I do know while carrying open, ill stick to tea or a soft drink. I don't think it would be a good image drinking a beer with a gun on my hip, but that's just me.