One just has to love revolvers

[Firearms Iinstuctor]

Oh, shucks. If you carry a S&W 686 or Ruger GP100 launching 158 grain slugs at 12-1400 fps, you can double up and take out two bad guys with one bullet.

So, what's the problem?

Line them up in a row front to back and shoot a hard cast SWCer you could take out 3 or more.

If you want to play the odds game or the numbers game.

The odds and numbers show that you will never need a gun to defends oneself. So don't carry at all.

 

[BlowMonkey5]

I bought my first wheelgun this weekend...Rossi .357, 2", 6 shot.....looking forward to the range this weekend!:monkey

 

[hovercat]

Revolvers also have a place with well seasoned folks like myself. As arthritis hits, gripping a slide to pull it back gets more difficult. Clearing a jam during a gunfight would leave my attackers laughing. And I can practice more with a revolver. 2 magazines of 9mm and I am no longer enjoying my range trip. 200 rounds of lightly loaded .38spl and I am fine.

 

[Firearms Iinstuctor]

Revolvers also have a place with well seasoned folks like myself. As arthritis hits, gripping a slide to pull it back gets more difficult. Clearing a jam during a gunfight would leave my attackers laughing. And I can practice more with a revolver. 2 magazines of 9mm and I am no longer enjoying my range trip. 200 rounds of lightly loaded .38spl and I am fine.

I personally find besides 22rf that 38 spl. 148gr match wad cutters to be one of the nicest and fun rounds to shoot.

 

[deepdiver]

I inherited my great-grandfathers S&W M&P 1909 3rd change (so identified by the fine folks at S&W). Sadly (for me) I probably shoot better with it than any other in my (now sadly lost in a boating accident beyond scuba depths) collection.

In the summer or at business events, I find my S&W 642, a surprisingly nice shooter for such a small, light revolver, is a wonderful pocket revolver in shorts or loose slacks, respectively.

 

[Citizen]

I inherited my great-grandfathers S&W M&P 1919 3rd change (so identified by the fine folks at S&W). Sadly (for me) I probably shoot better with it than any other in my (now sadly lost in a boating accident beyond scuba depths) collection.

In the summer or at business events, I find my S&W 642, a surprisingly nice shooter for such a small, light revolver, is a wonderful pocket revolver in shorts or loose slacks, respectively.

Real men shoot revolvers. Anybody can pull a 5 lb trigger on a semi-auto, or even less for a cocked-and-locked 1911. Revolvers take skill (practice) to haul back that double-action trigger.



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[MSG Laigaie]

Real men shoot revolvers. Anybody can pull a 5 lb trigger on a semi-auto, or even less for a cocked-and-locked 1911. Revolvers take skill (practice) to haul back that double-action trigger.



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I'll go.
I find myself EDCing a Ruger P85 lately. I keep a round in, and safety off. Double action rules.

I also have quite a few revolvers in the inventory. I carried a tiny five shot Smith&Wesson as a last resort weapon during my travels in SE Asia. Lost it in laos.

 

[Citizen]

I'll go.
I find myself EDCing a Ruger P85 lately. I keep a round in, and safety off. Double action rules.

I also have quite a few revolvers in the inventory. I carried a tiny five shot Smith&Wesson as a last resort weapon during my travels in SE Asia. Lost it in laos.

Paid for by a rich uncle named Sam, no doubt?

You've got more experience than I estimated, but that's my fault, not yours. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Firearms Iinstuctor]

Real men shoot revolvers. Anybody can pull a 5 lb trigger on a semi-auto, or even less for a cocked-and-locked 1911. Revolvers take skill (practice) to haul back that double-action trigger.



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I have found if one can master double action revolver shooting on can shoot any hand gun.

 

[deepdiver]

Real men shoot revolvers. Anybody can pull a 5 lb trigger on a semi-auto, or even less for a cocked-and-locked 1911. Revolvers take skill (practice) to haul back that double-action trigger.



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Yeah, well, my g-gf's revolver shooting DA is a shorter and lighter trigger than the Sig P228 first DA shot. And shooting it SA, that century ol' wheel gun is shorter and lighter than that Sig's follow-up SA shot. Add to that the mechanical advantage of the DA revolver trigger finger position as opposed to a semi-auto position and well...

I'm just sayin' maybe you need to break in your wheel gun a little better.

 

[Citizen]

I have found if one can master double action revolver shooting on can shoot any hand gun.

Ain't that the truth.

 

[FMJ 911]

One rule I got with the .357: If I fire a point-blank shot into someone and they shake it off, I'm running since it's probably a T-800 Terminator.

 

[Grapeshot]

I have found if one can master double action revolver shooting on can shoot any hand gun.

The "new" style pin.

The ol' style, like in my drawer, is pewter w/black background and smaller.

 

[WalkingWolf]

Real men shoot revolvers. Anybody can pull a 5 lb trigger on a semi-auto, or even less for a cocked-and-locked 1911. Revolvers take skill (practice) to haul back that double-action trigger.



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I get sick of hearing some fanbois whine about how bad a 8# long trigger pull. To be honest I don't care much for light switch triggers, I can shoot them, but don't like them. I am a long time SA trigger fan, but with a DAO revolver one can still make a well aimed shot by stopping short of hammer drop. Try that with a light switch trigger. I was feeling up the new LC9s compared to the older LC9, honestly I did not like the LC9s at all.

But then fanbois think a six inch group at 7 yards is accuracy.

 

[deepdiver]

I get sick of hearing some fanbois whine about how bad a 8# long trigger pull. To be honest I don't care much for light switch triggers, I can shoot them, but don't like them. I am a long time SA trigger fan, but with a DAO revolver one can still make a well aimed shot by stopping short of hammer drop. Try that with a light switch trigger. I was feeling up the new LC9s compared to the older LC9, honestly I did not like the LC9s at all.

But then fanbois think a six inch group at 7 yards is accuracy.

I'm missing something in your jump from revolvers to LC9. Unless you meant LCR. Or were you referencing the LC9 trigger feel? But then I am still not following. (been a crazy week so it is probably just me)

 

[WalkingWolf]

I'm missing something in your jump from revolvers to LC9. Unless you meant LCR. Or were you referencing the LC9 trigger feel? But then I am still not following. (been a crazy week so it is probably just me)

I am talking strictly triggers, revolvers, and semi autos have a trigger. DA revolver triggers have some stacking, so even in a DAO revolver it is possible to go for a precision shot. Think like hitting a very small target. Light switch triggers have no stacking, or very very little, limiting precision shots. My standard for any gun is to be able to put a bullet through the same hole at 10 yards without a rest. Or in some cases, god forbid, a eyeball. Few semi autos meet that standard, many revolvers do. 1911 is an exception, but due to an exceptional trigger with a discernible break point.

Accuracy wise outside of spending thousands of dollars, a revolver is going to provide that high level of accuracy better than a semi auto. I had several revolvers over the years, and my eyesight better, that I could cut down weeds with the gun. Both my S&W model 28(converted to 44 spl), and a model 67 were downright amazing. Unfortunately over the years I sold both.

Most of the complaints of revolvers, and some pistols is the long stiffer trigger pull, IMO that is a plus, not a negative. But I am not a fanboy.

 

[deepdiver]

I am talking strictly triggers, revolvers, and semi autos have a trigger. DA revolver triggers have some stacking, so even in a DAO revolver it is possible to go for a precision shot. Think like hitting a very small target. Light switch triggers have no stacking, or very very little, limiting precision shots. My standard for any gun is to be able to put a bullet through the same hole at 10 yards without a rest. Or in some cases, god forbid, a eyeball. Few semi autos meet that standard, many revolvers do. 1911 is an exception, but due to an exceptional trigger with a discernible break point.

Accuracy wise outside of spending thousands of dollars, a revolver is going to provide that high level of accuracy better than a semi auto. I had several revolvers over the years, and my eyesight better, that I could cut down weeds with the gun. Both my S&W model 28(converted to 44 spl), and a model 67 were downright amazing. Unfortunately over the years I sold both.

Most of the complaints of revolvers, and some pistols is the long stiffer trigger pull, IMO that is a plus, not a negative. But I am not a fanboy.

Thank you for clarifying and expanding on your thoughts. I completely understand now.

 

[Citizen]

I am talking strictly triggers, revolvers, and semi autos have a trigger. DA revolver triggers have some stacking, so even in a DAO revolver it is possible to go for a precision shot. Think like hitting a very small target. Light switch triggers have no stacking, or very very little, limiting precision shots. My standard for any gun is to be able to put a bullet through the same hole at 10 yards without a rest. Or in some cases, god forbid, a eyeball. Few semi autos meet that standard, many revolvers do. 1911 is an exception, but due to an exceptional trigger with a discernible break point.

Accuracy wise outside of spending thousands of dollars, a revolver is going to provide that high level of accuracy better than a semi auto. I had several revolvers over the years, and my eyesight better, that I could cut down weeds with the gun. Both my S&W model 28(converted to 44 spl), and a model 67 were downright amazing. Unfortunately over the years I sold both.

Most of the complaints of revolvers, and some pistols is the long stiffer trigger pull, IMO that is a plus, not a negative. But I am not a fanboy.

Once upon a time, I had a Taurus PT92--their version of the M4 Beretta. That dang thing tossed bullets all over the target, until I realized it was the DA trigger pull. I lightened the trigger spring a bit (kit from Wolff springs), and then paid attention to what I was doing. Do you know that dang thing would literally put numerous shots through the same bullet hole? I lost count of the targets that had one ragged hole with an occasional flyer (always my fault). Too bad the barrel stud cracked one day where it met the barrel, jamming the slide and tearing up the rails. I don't really regret its loss--it was too big for CC anyway. But, boy could it put bullets in the same spot.

Also, you or another poster mentioned using trigger stacking to turn a double-action revolver trigger into something much like single-action. I learned that too. Can't imagine I would need it for self-defense shooting except maybe at long distance. For unfamiliar readers, stacking refers to a phenomena whereby the trigger requires more force at the end of the stroke than the beginning. With a little practice--not much--you can learn to use that additional resistance at the end of the trigger travel. You can pull back the trigger until it is about to let go, stop and hold it there. Then, adjust your sight-picture/sight-alignment, and then finish the trigger squeeze.

I definitely recommend against it as a "cocking" method in a self-defense situation, though. What if something startles you, and you reflexively pull that trigger the rest of the way? You just fired a shot you were not justified in shooting. The Four Rules apply: don't put your finger in the trigger guard until you intend to fire the gun.

 

[WalkingWolf]

Highly doubtful I would use stacking for self defense, though as a LEO we trained and prepared for precise head shots. Can't always wait for SWAT, and unlike present day it was looked on badly if the innocent hostage is shot. Most PD's back then used revolvers, and most departments did not have a SWAT team.

 

[Grapeshot]

This conversation re stacking has reminded me of an old gunny, target shooter's trick - having a round pencil eraser installed (several simple methods) inside the trigger guard, directly inline with the termination point of the trigger travel. Resulted in a "soft" trigger stop, requiring a touch more pressure to drop the hammer.

Tried it on one of my target .22 LR semi-autos - works, but I didn't like the conditioned change I saw it could make in my skill set.

Would never, not ever, consider such for EDC or any defensive tool.