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SCOTUS Rules Police Cannot Search Homes Without Warrants in the Name of 'Community Caretaking'

2a4all

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In this area (Tidewater, VA) there are localities that depend solely on volunteer EMS personnel (firefighters, paramedics, etc.). There are also localities around here that have a mix of volunteer and paid (municipal employees) EMS personnel, and some that only have paid EMS.

I'm guessing that if they enter a premises without authorization (e.g. someone summoned them via 911), they'd be trespassing. If they ended up saving a life, I doubt anyone would press charges.
 

solus

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yea dude. the ambulance or firetruck that has the county or city name on the side of the truck is owned and employed and serviced by the local government.
Hammer, did the thought these kind folk could be contract entities and just supplying professional Services...

myriad of reasons emts aren't attached to municipalities per...just cuz they ride on third party vehicle.
 

color of law

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The SC just declared that "this ain't one".
And that's why Judge Alito sent a warning shot across the bow about "Red Flag" laws and the fourth amendment.

Rino Rubio introduced a "Red Flag" Senate Bill.
(C) If a court issues an extreme risk protection order, the order shall contain—
(vi) a description of the requirements for surrender of all firearms and ammunition owned by the respondent; and
(vii) a clear statement of instruction on surrendering to the appropriate local law enforcement agency.....
The term "surrender" is a voluntary act. Courts cannot order someone to volunteer to do anything, but they do it all the time. Rubio's Bill then says if the firearms are not surrendered then a warrant can be issued for the seizure of those firearms. And this is why Judge Alito said hold on boys, you are on shaky ground.
 
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