michaelm_ski
Regular Member
Could this be so ? You decide http://www.military.com/video/opera...w-ted-nugent-avoided-the-draft/1581347852001/ , I am Shocked at the names mentioned here .
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UNCLE TED a DRAFT DODGER
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ManInBlack
Regular Member
I'm not a fan of Ted Nugent, but:
The draft is a form of slavery. Especially because the modern military has nothing to do with defending the country or Constitution, I won't begrudge anyone for attempting to evade involuntary servitude.
The draft is a form of slavery. Especially because the modern military has nothing to do with defending the country or Constitution, I won't begrudge anyone for attempting to evade involuntary servitude.
stainless1911
Banned
It seems a little far fteched, but then again, Ted is a little off.
TheQ
Regular Member
^^^^this^^^^
Shadow Bear
Michigan Moderator
The draft was a shameful symptom of the general population's indifference. We had to force men to do their duty? I'd die of shame.
Who would wait to get drafted when offered the opportunity to serve was so generously offered?
Who would wait to get drafted when offered the opportunity to serve was so generously offered?
ManInBlack
Regular Member
Yes, what ungrateful malcontent would turn down the generously-offered opportunity to go die in some god-forsaken country, in an unconstitutional, undeclared war, for the sake and in the service of the military-industrial complex and certain foreign governments?
If you believe that young men should happily and gladly march off to wherever their leaders fancy, I would remind you that National Socialism, and the fuhrerprinzip, have been thoroughly discredited...
ETA: Your signature reveals that you thoroughly misunderstand Gandhi's philosophy; not that he was a man worthy of admiration, anyway...
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Agreed. I don't have a problem with someone desiring to not die in slavery to government. What I do have a problem with are people who dodge the draft and then seek to or are open to imposing a draft when they are in office. Those people are the true scumbags.
ManInBlack
Regular Member
I'm with you. Nugent's present-day chickenhawk stance is not only immoral, but highly hypocritical. As far as politicians, it is beyond me why the mere mention of reimposing the draft is not political suicide, given the events of the last fifty years (but especially the last ten). Then again, most things the average American voter does baffle me...
stainless1911
Banned
I like the IDF, Israeli Defense Force, you go in, no matter who you are. I would love to see that here.
ManInBlack
Regular Member
Yes...universal forced labor for the government (on top of universal forced labor in the form of income taxation). That just screams "freedom" to me.
You, sir, are one very confused individual.
stainless1911
Banned
or are those who dont fight for freedom, freeloaders?
ManInBlack
Regular Member
Are you kidding? When was the last time the U.S. military fought to preserve American freedoms and liberties? When was the last time it was involved in a constitutional war?
Hell, you can't even carry a firearm, an activity protected by the federal constitution, into a federal government building, here in the United States. Why in the hell should I believe my government is somehow engaged in fighting for freedom abroad?
You've said previously that you don't follow the news. I suggest you start, so you can know what your government is really doing without having to take its word for it.
KBCraig
Regular Member
Like many bombastic BSers, Ted has told so many stories he can't keep them all straight. Which story he tells depends on who he's trying to impress at the time.
I don't think he took any active steps to avoid the draft. He stayed in the country, and was subject to being drafted the entire time. Doing drugs, being filthy, and crapping your pants would not keep you out of service if your number came up.
I don't think he took any active steps to avoid the draft. He stayed in the country, and was subject to being drafted the entire time. Doing drugs, being filthy, and crapping your pants would not keep you out of service if your number came up.
stainless1911
Banned
Right, the news is merely a set of opinions from the same direction, usually left. No different really, than the little tabloid papers at the checkout in the grocery store.
ManInBlack
Regular Member
OK, so what secret information have you been privy to that suggests that the US military is doing anything to defend the country and the Constitution? It must be pretty amazing intel, if it can justify slavery to the State.
stainless1911
Banned
I dont consider it slavery. Maybe if people were taught some pride, and to respect the flag as they do in the service, the country would be worth more, and more would get involved. Shoot, just making people dress neatly, pick up after themselves, and know that there is a reason for having a place for everything and some order to life, would do the country some good.
Some countries have more freedom than ours.
Some countries have more freedom than ours.
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Shadow Bear
Michigan Moderator
Yes, what ungrateful malcontent would turn down the generously-offered opportunity to go die in some god-forsaken country, in an unconstitutional, undeclared war, for the sake and in the service of the military-industrial complex and certain foreign governments?
If you believe that young men should happily and gladly march off to wherever their leaders fancy, I would remind you that National Socialism, and the fuhrerprinzip, have been thoroughly discredited...
ETA: Your signature reveals that you thoroughly misunderstand Gandhi's philosophy; not that he was a man worthy of admiration, anyway...
Personal attack deleted.
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stainless1911
Banned
lol.
One of my biggest regrets, is that I didnt go in. Turns out, Its a year too late now, Im 36, the limit is 35. I doubt my physical limitations would allow me success in basic anyhow.
One of my biggest regrets, is that I didnt go in. Turns out, Its a year too late now, Im 36, the limit is 35. I doubt my physical limitations would allow me success in basic anyhow.
ManInBlack
Regular Member
You don't work. You collect government money that was confiscated from others, spend your days playing with little children (and, by your own admission, getting yourself in trouble with the law for harming them), and have the audacity to demand that others be conscripted into involuntary servitude (again, beyond the involuntary servitude that goes toward providing for your existence) to the government.
You have zero credibility. You have demonstrated that you are completely uninformed.