devildoc5
Regular Member
The Marksman - Tried to buy a bluebie gun but they don't sell them.
They sell them at surplus...and in the same gun as you currently carry!
The Marksman - Tried to buy a bluebie gun but they don't sell them.
Surplus is closed on Monday, thus why I couldn't go today. I'll be there tomorrow-ish
Teriyaki Town (112th / Canyon)
Payless Shoes (112th / Meridian) - The daughter needed shoes. Her shoes are now like $30. When she was little, they were 6? 10? Wow...
The Marksman - Tried to buy a bluebie gun but they don't sell them.
Summit Trading (104th / Canyon) - ICE cream is expensive too.
i seen some at cabelas about a month ago if you want to check them out.
How do you like Teriyaki town? I go to Nana Wok which is next to Taco Bell/KFC.
American Family Insurance Spanaway - Picked up new insurance paperwork
Starbuck's spanaway - We saw a celebrity!
Country rose - Yumm
Ford Middle School (Empty Holster) - My kid is pulling 5 As, and 1 B. i grounded him for 5 years for the B
Quantico Tactical - Nothing I wanted
Tactical Tailor - Again
Surplus Ammo - I forgot to buy ammo. Bought Ani a CS / Pepper spray until she gets her .380
Winco Puyallup - no issues
Walmart 160th / Meridian - A man commented about us "OC" guys and hearing Tom on the radio. Handed him a pamphlet. He was receptive, the wife was more so.
A BUSY DAY, and no big issues
Metropolitan Market, Tacoma. A nice young fellow, with his young daughter in tow, asked me if I ever had any problem open carrying in any stores, particularly the Metropolitan Market. I replied that I have never had any problem anywhere, and I've been OCing from a number of years. He asked a few more questions out of curiosity, then divulged that he was an off duty King County Deputy. He said he has seen other OCers while he was in uniform, but he didn't want to contact them officially. He was glad to have the opportunity to chat informally.
We chatted awhile longer, and he related a story about a fellow officer who had been stopped by WSP three or four years ago. He notified the trooper that he was packing and that he was LE. The trooper went through the whole drill, hands on the steering wheel, reached through the window and disarmed him, unloaded the gun and mag, etc. Amazing story since I've never heard of WSP doing anything like that. Well, it was a few years ago. I think things have changed.
All in all, a very nice exchange, and an opportunity to show this officer that OCers are just regular folks out doing normal everyday stuff.
BTW, he says he reads our forum. I wish he would join, but I didn't think to mention that to him.
I can't WAIT for all the flames I am gonna get for this:
That being said I went to the county-ctiy building to (finally) apply for my CPL yesterday. Upon arriving 20 mins prior to opening I noticed a line of people at the entrance and a couple of employees walking by. I politely asked the employees if they knew where I could check my weapon, they did not but got some security guy out to assist me (before they opened mind you). This gentleman proceeded to VOLUNTEER to escort me around the other side of the building to where I was "supposed to check the weapon in. The whole time he was telling me how the process is long and they would prefer that I didnt bring it and this that and the other. HE WAS NOT RUDE THOUGH! Once we got to the other door he stepped inside I remained outside for the arrival of a deputy. The gentleman returned and informed me "oops they changed it on me" or something to that effect, so back around the building we went (back to the original door).
I once again waited outside and once the deputy arrived he asked for ID and CPL. I told him I was here to APPLY for my CPL thus I didn't have a CPL and I needed my ID for the process. as I opened up my wallet to place the card he handed me into it he noticed an EXPIRED ID and asked about that. I told him it was expired and he said "I just need an id so my boss doesn't get upset, can I have that one?" At this point I was really not in the mood/position to argue. We were outside and there were EASILY 30 other people watching. I handed him the expired ID, placed the card in my wallet "for safe keeping in case I lost it so no one else could claim my weapon." And stood in line (outside unarmed....)
When I went to retireve my weapon I informed security I was waiting to retrieve my weapon they called the deputy, obtained the "locker number" from me off the card I had (I still retained possession of the card) and asked me to "wait outside where the depputy met me the first time". After approx 5 mins the deputy returns with the same reusable safeway bag in his hands. He ushers me over to the side and asks "are you ready?" in a hushed whisper (kind afelt like I imagine a drug deal might feel like....) he handed me my thigh rig with gun in holster I attached it to the quick disconnects and checked to see where the magazine was that had been in it. Much to my surprise it was STILL in the mag well! I asked the officer if there was still "one in the pipe" to which he responded "it is exactly how you left it". I confirmed this upon returning to my vehicle and he was correct everything was EXACTLY how I had left it. 17 rounds one in the chamber full mag in the pistol. Extra mag still attached where I left it and full. No paper bag, no loose rounds and no "fingering" of my weapon.
Bravo Zulu to the deputy for at least not messing with my firearm. He was very respectful and polite throughout the whole ordeal.
Later when I found I did not have enough cash to pay for parking (was one minute past the hour mark! :banghead I was told to go back inside the courthouse to use the atm. Told the security guard my intentions and she called the deputy back out. The deputy approached me and asked what the problem was. I explained it to him and he said I can let you back in and everything or you could just walk around the building and go to the atm at the bank. Either way is fine with me, just trying to make it easier on you. I proceeded to the atm and the deputy wished me well again.
Overall very VERY nice experience (the first guy coulda been more knowledgeable, I shouldn't have HAD to show ID, and they shouldn't have confiscated my KEYS, but overall it went a lot more smooth than I had anticipated,) especially after reading about others experiences here....
I can't WAIT for all the flames I am gonna get for this:
That being said I went to the county-ctiy building to (finally) apply for my CPL yesterday. Upon arriving 20 mins prior to opening I noticed a line of people at the entrance and a couple of employees walking by. I politely asked the employees if they knew where I could check my weapon, they did not but got some security guy out to assist me (before they opened mind you). This gentleman proceeded to VOLUNTEER to escort me around the other side of the building to where I was "supposed to check the weapon in. The whole time he was telling me how the process is long and they would prefer that I didnt bring it and this that and the other. HE WAS NOT RUDE THOUGH! Once we got to the other door he stepped inside I remained outside for the arrival of a deputy. The gentleman returned and informed me "oops they changed it on me" or something to that effect, so back around the building we went (back to the original door).
I once again waited outside and once the deputy arrived he asked for ID and CPL. I told him I was here to APPLY for my CPL thus I didn't have a CPL and I needed my ID for the process. as I opened up my wallet to place the card he handed me into it he noticed an EXPIRED ID and asked about that. I told him it was expired and he said "I just need an id so my boss doesn't get upset, can I have that one?" At this point I was really not in the mood/position to argue. We were outside and there were EASILY 30 other people watching. I handed him the expired ID, placed the card in my wallet "for safe keeping in case I lost it so no one else could claim my weapon." And stood in line (outside unarmed....)
When I went to retireve my weapon I informed security I was waiting to retrieve my weapon they called the deputy, obtained the "locker number" from me off the card I had (I still retained possession of the card) and asked me to "wait outside where the depputy met me the first time". After approx 5 mins the deputy returns with the same reusable safeway bag in his hands. He ushers me over to the side and asks "are you ready?" in a hushed whisper (kind afelt like I imagine a drug deal might feel like....) he handed me my thigh rig with gun in holster I attached it to the quick disconnects and checked to see where the magazine was that had been in it. Much to my surprise it was STILL in the mag well! I asked the officer if there was still "one in the pipe" to which he responded "it is exactly how you left it". I confirmed this upon returning to my vehicle and he was correct everything was EXACTLY how I had left it. 17 rounds one in the chamber full mag in the pistol. Extra mag still attached where I left it and full. No paper bag, no loose rounds and no "fingering" of my weapon.
Bravo Zulu to the deputy for at least not messing with my firearm. He was very respectful and polite throughout the whole ordeal.
Later when I found I did not have enough cash to pay for parking (was one minute past the hour mark! :banghead I was told to go back inside the courthouse to use the atm. Told the security guard my intentions and she called the deputy back out. The deputy approached me and asked what the problem was. I explained it to him and he said I can let you back in and everything or you could just walk around the building and go to the atm at the bank. Either way is fine with me, just trying to make it easier on you. I proceeded to the atm and the deputy wished me well again.
Overall very VERY nice experience (the first guy coulda been more knowledgeable, I shouldn't have HAD to show ID, and they shouldn't have confiscated my KEYS, but overall it went a lot more smooth than I had anticipated,) especially after reading about others experiences here....
I have been there a couple of times. Once my firearm was returned unloaded.
The other time it was returned untouched, left in my holster.
They have been inconsitent, and I am working with the Pierce Co. executive's office and the PCSO on proper execution of the policy.
Are you working toward getting rid of their requirement of providing ID and CPL? AFAIK, it supercedes state law, which would violate preemption.